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To: Robert DeLong
I am not in law enforcement.

Yeah, I read your earlier post justifying the shooting of this poor guy and making the blanket statement that a lot of people who are pulled over have criminal backgrounds. Is that, in your opinion, justification for shooting them, too? After all, if the cop can shoot this guy because...well...you never know what he had in the truck then how could the cop trust someone with a criminal background? Bang. Justified. Right?

150 posted on 09/25/2014 1:23:10 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Of course not. My point was that the cop never knows who is a threat and who is not a threat, thus they tend to treat everybody as a threat. Nor was it a blanket statement, I didn't say that everyone has major criminal backgrounds, or that criminal backgrounds are a justification for a cop to shoot.

That being said, I just watched the video and this cop did in fact not handle the situation correctly. He will pay the price, and justifiably so.

Instead I was going by the statement in the post that said:
Levar Jones' painful groans and then-Trooper Sean Groubert's reply — "Well you dove head first back into your car" — were captured by a dashboard camera in the trooper's car.

Looking at the video I do not see the man diving into his car head first. I see him leaning into his car head first, not diving. That's the way the DA saw it and his boss saw it. His boss fired him and the DA charged him.

There seem to be a lot of people on FR that criticize cops at every drop of the hat. I was obviously allowing that fact to form my response as well. But once someone actually sees the clip one does determine that the cop was not justified in shooting this man. The only problem I have is not seeing the entire stop. Did the man do something that we do not see in the clip provided that made this cop pull out his gun? Him having his gun trained on the man is not proper procedure either, unless the man had given him good reason to.

I live in the country and our cops are not involved in many shootings. They sure as hell do not train their guns on us for no reason. These people may live in large cities where I'm sure cop related shootings occur more often, because crime is more prevalent. Just another reason to live in the country.

I guess my real point in all of this is that we should not be trying cases that have not been heard in court in the news outlets. We may be missing an important piece of information not being provided.

170 posted on 09/25/2014 2:08:22 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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