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To: familyop
Count me among those who do not want to see "unstylish, downscale people around them."

Do you choose to live in the ghetto or do you choose to live in a leafy suburban neighborhood? How many unstylish, downscale people do you entertain in your home?

The test of overpopulation has to do with quality is much as quantity. The test of overpopulation has to do with my lifestyle and my right to it as much as politics. If I cannot get to my destination because traffic jams are chronic with people who may or may not be unstylish and downscale competing with the for the same road space, parking space, green spaces, I have a population problem if you do not.

The population of the United States has more than doubled in my lifetime, to what benefit? If one cares about the Bill of Rights one must admit that doubling the population has worked toward halving our constitutional rights. The test of overpopulation is not just mineral extraction, not just new technologies in agriculture, it is the quality of life and liberty.

Those conservatives who see the dangers from overpopulation are not benighted Malthausians. Until we conservatives get past this idea that we need a population explosion to pay for Social Security, until we conservatives get past this notion that it is somehow anti-Christian to practice birth control, until we become clear thinking enough to distinguish between birth control and abortion, we will continue to see our liberties and our lifestyles ebb.


18 posted on 09/29/2014 11:48:47 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Most of the licensed and approved folks of today are not generally conservative or hard working. Most of them couldn't do a simple repair to save their lives, much less produce anything new and of good use.

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
“2 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

They discuss politics with Republicans while giving our money to Democrats.

They're good at manufacturing trouble and scarcity, though. Their political activities are anti-competition and anti-production, but they do believe that overpopulation is a problem.

About "70 million" people are receiving good incomes but are also steeped in debt and can't borrow more for big ticket items.

That's not a very conservative way of living. What of the other 30 million? Most are probably retirees, but how many of the small remainder have used government to regulate against new, small, potential competition?

America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print

The Fragmenting of the New Class Elites, or, Downward Mobility
http://volokh.com/2011/10/31/the-fragmenting-of-the-new-class-elites-or-downward-mobility/

Environmentalism and the Leisure Class
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835601/posts

The New Upper Class and the Real Reason We Dislike Them
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843575/posts

Are you a member of the political class?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/are_you_a_member_of_the_politi.html

Downton’s Class System — and Ours: We have a ruling class that despises the free market and does all in its power to restrict its scope.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3024119/posts

They've effectively outlawed most honest, productive work and have temporarily replaced it with a slowly collapsing alternative of recirculating debt.

What Cooked The World’s Economy?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2209313/posts

And...

Here’s the link for the evidence in the information from the “Bank for International Settlements,” as mentioned in the full version of the excerpted article linked above.

http://www.bis.org/publ/otc_hy0805.pdf

...and a quote from it.

“The over-the-counter (OTC) derivatives market showed relatively steady growth in the second half of 2007, amid the turmoil in global financial markets. Notional amounts of all categories of OTC contracts rose by 15% to $596 trillion at the end of December (Table 1), following a 24% increase in the first half of the year.1”

China’s imploding US ally (AIG)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2084468/posts

AIG: Inquiring Minds Want To Know
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2192489/posts
(China)

Fed won’t say who helped by AIG rescue
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2200398/posts

Top U.S., European Banks Got $50 Billion in AIG Aid
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2201213/posts

China appeals to Washington to safeguard assets
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2205693/posts

U.S. Federal Reserve to buy up to US$300B long-term Treasury bonds
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2209403/posts

They're guilty, and they know it. That shows in their hysterical political speech. Their latest adult poster children:

White couple sues, says sperm bank gave vials from black donor
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3209586/posts


23 posted on 09/30/2014 4:39:41 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: nathanbedford
Those conservatives who see the dangers from overpopulation are not benighted Malthausians. Until we conservatives get past this idea that we need a population explosion to pay for Social Security,

But why is Social Security even needed in the first place? Moreover, if it is needed, why hasn't the Constitution been amended to explicitly allow it? (Or, if it is implicitly allowed, then please show the line of reasoning describing from whence its authority comes.)

until we conservatives get past this notion that it is somehow anti-Christian to practice birth control,

Arguably, use of birth control displays a lack of faith in God — in your particular argument, that He cannot provide.

until we become clear thinking enough to distinguish between birth control and abortion, we will continue to see our liberties and our lifestyles ebb.

Who has trouble distinguishing between birth control and abortion? Using birth control is expressing a lack of faith (or perhaps self control), while abortion is murder.

27 posted on 10/01/2014 10:02:59 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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