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Outbreak Jitters: How Can We Trust the CDC on Ebola?
www.nbcnews.com ^ | 10/01/2014 | By Maggie Fox

Posted on 10/01/2014 12:11:31 PM PDT by Red Badger

"We will stop Ebola in its tracks in the U.S.,” Dr. Tom Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, says confidently, over and over. But how can we be sure?

Many Americans are mistrustful. “Sorry I am not confident in their confidence that it won't spread... that is what they told us when they brought the 3 infected folks here... it will spread it is just a matter of how fast,” Wendy Head-Chapman writes on NBC News Health's Facebook page. “Government can’t be trusted,” chimes in Janet Calderone McElroy.

But the CDC knows it does not pay to lie to people about disease, says Dr. Tom Inglesby, director of the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center’s Center for Health Security, a think-tank dedicated to health threats.

“They know it would be a terrible mistake for the institution, a terrible strategy, and they just won’t do it,” Inglesby told NBC News. “People are learning what is known by the CDC when the CDC learns it.”

It is difficult to reconcile the image of Ebola spreading out of control in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea with the message that a patient sick with Ebola is unlikely to cause an outbreak in the United States. It’s made more than 6,500 people sick so far — probably far more — and killed 50 to 70 percent of them. Even the World Health Organization says it’s going to worsen exponentially.

But experts both in and out of the CDC say they know plenty about Ebola, how it spreads and what the danger to the general public is. Most outbreaks in Africa have been quickly contained. This one turned into an epidemic because of a terrible combination of factors — countries devastated by years of civil war, a complete lack of public health infrastructure and a public that had never heard of Ebola and had no idea how it spread.

People are dying in the streets, patients are turned away from overflowing hospitals to take their own chances, caregivers must tend to loved ones without any protections, sometimes even without running water and soap.

None of those things happens in the United States, with its modern, if imperfect, public health system.

Hospitals are alert to the risk of someone coming in with many different infectious diseases, not just Ebola but also tuberculosis, influenza, measles. They know to quickly isolate or at least segregate patients who are coughing, sneezing, vomiting or who have diarrhea. Health care workers examining such patients wear gloves, masks and often gowns.

Hospitals have disinfectants to clean up anything that might get contaminated and health workers know the drill for what to do if they do come into contact with someone who might have infected them. With Ebola, they know to watch for fever and to isolate themselves if they do start showing similar symptoms.

U.S. hospitals have successfully dealt with imported infectious diseases, including Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) and several patients with Lassa fever, which is another dangerous viral hemorrhagic fever similar to Ebola. And even if hospitals do mess up — outbreaks of Methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) or Clostridium difficile (C. diff) are examples — Ebola is much easier to kill than these bacteria.

Dr. David Heymann of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, and a leading world expert on disease outbreaks, agrees. “U.S. hospitals have good infection control measures in place, which involve isolating fevers of unknown origin, and using good clinical practices. It is also fairly easy and straightforward for U.S. authorities to trace any contact the patient may have had, and to put contacts under fever surveillance,” he said.

“So as long as these systems are maintained, we don't need to worry about a major Ebola outbreak occurring in the US. The same activities that will contain Ebola in the US will also stop the outbreaks in Africa if applied effectively.”

CDC has a track record of handling disease imports and actual pandemic without lying, Inglesby points out.

“The team they have there is a group of veteran public health professionals that have been doing this for a long time, working on SARS and bird flu and 2009 H1N1 (influenza) and MERS. There isn’t any evidence from any of those outbreaks in the past that CDC would sit on something to prevent people from panicking,” Inglesby said.

Frieden correctly predicted that someone would show up at a U.S. hospital with Ebola, and he's been quick to say that it's very possible the Dallas patient will have infected someone else.

When H5N1 bird flu first became a big threat in 2003, government health agencies did a full-court press on learning how best to communicate threats to the public. One overlying message was that lying always backfires.

“There is a body of research that says the more the public knows, the more it does something that is rational,” Inglesby said.

“In the late 1990s and moving up to 2001 there were a lot of government agencies where you would hear leaders say things like ‘the public must be handled like this,’ like it was a group that must be controlled,” Inglesby said. “But now we know that people can handle information. They need to know true information, and you need to tell them what you don’t know. If you give the public that information, they act like adults.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cdc; ebola
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Imagine if the GOVERNMENT was the ONLY source of health care today...................
1 posted on 10/01/2014 12:11:31 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

ah, if this is media and not a blog would say the media is afraid of a dirty rat?


2 posted on 10/01/2014 12:13:43 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Red Badger

Imagine if this outbreak was being enabled on purpose so Obama could have a crisis that he wouldn’t let go to waste?


3 posted on 10/01/2014 12:13:53 PM PDT by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: Red Badger
They want us to trust them...

EVEN if it's the last thing we do!

4 posted on 10/01/2014 12:15:19 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Red Badger

I don’t trust anything the CDC has to say about Ebloa and its transmission or inability to be transmitted.


5 posted on 10/01/2014 12:15:34 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Red Badger

Dr. Tom Frieden worked for nanny state Bloomberg and is politically aligned with the left. I don’t trust him. Or any of the other incompetent crony Marxists in this regime.


6 posted on 10/01/2014 12:16:13 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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“But now we know that people can handle information. They need to know true information, and you need to tell them what you don’t know. If you give the public that information, they act like adults.”

"That hasn't been my experience.


7 posted on 10/01/2014 12:17:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Red Badger

Well if a major outbreak happens let’s hope it happens in Nancy Pelosis district.


8 posted on 10/01/2014 12:18:35 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Obama Will Say 'War on Women' But Not 'War on ISIS)
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To: UCANSEE2

Did another Infected Ebola patient just land in Boston from W.Africa????


9 posted on 10/01/2014 12:19:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: Red Badger
I saw King's The Stand. We all die!


10 posted on 10/01/2014 12:20:27 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: no-to-illegals

The sister of the Texas Ebola patient says he told officials the first time he went to the hospital that he was visiting ‘from’ Liberia....

Looks like the nurse who got that information dropped the ball.


11 posted on 10/01/2014 12:22:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: Red_Devil 232

I used to trust them until I heard about the 3 time assault convict they hired as a security guard who wound up in the elevator with Obola. Then their vaunted reputation for competence went poof, in my mind.


12 posted on 10/01/2014 12:22:27 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (Epesians 6:12 becomes more real to me with each news cycle.)
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To: Red Badger

We can’t.

We can’t trust the CDC about ANYTHING -

- especially while it is run by the Obama malAdministration.


13 posted on 10/01/2014 12:22:58 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: UCANSEE2

The CDC is being far too confident. They say that airline travel is safe, but from my personal experience with leaky johns to vomiting kids..they just can’t make that statement. I have been on flights where the carpets outside the johns were wet..and seats were wet. Especially W.Africa and other hell holes where things just don’t work as planned.
We should be puling the visa’s of people from those countries and not allowing airlines to board them to the US. Only citizens should be allowed to return.
There are no non-stop flights from those countries to the US..so we can’t cut those off.


14 posted on 10/01/2014 12:23:07 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Red Badger

Two questions which I have yet to hear the pandering press ask CDC:

1. Is the infected man going to get the magic serum which saved the two US citizens infected in Africa a few weeks ago, and transported here for treatment (and a follow up - is the serum in mass production)?

2. If it is a 21 day incubation, the new infected person could have been exposed as early as Sept. 5th. When did he buy his ticket here? In other words, could he have (a) known he was in contact and gotten here asap for superior treatment, or (b) was sent here with the infection on purpose?

I saw the head of CDC interviewed all over this morning (only listened to a couple). They just ate up his dribble without asking either of these questions. At least, I didn’t hear it asked.

If anyone knows if the answer is out there (and I missed it), please share.


15 posted on 10/01/2014 12:26:21 PM PDT by dan on the right
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To: Red Badger
Could it be that the CDC suffers from normalcy bias. If our procedures are so great how come the guy in Texas was sent home with an antibiotic first, and wasn't isolated until 2 days later when he was admitted to the hospital?
16 posted on 10/01/2014 12:29:07 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Red Badger

“If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan. Period.”


17 posted on 10/01/2014 12:30:12 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: mathprof

“If you like your health, you can keep your health. Period.”


18 posted on 10/01/2014 12:31:49 PM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: caww

What is the source of this information?


19 posted on 10/01/2014 12:34:29 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: dan on the right

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-victim-texas-thomas-eric-duncan.html?_r=0


20 posted on 10/01/2014 12:34:37 PM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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