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To: Gilbo_3; sickoflibs; NFHale
theatrics much ted ???

seriously, regardless of anyone's opinion on whether or not queers can marry each other, fedzilla is NOT supposed to be involved in the first place...besides, it'll be DOA just like all the other crap out of congress for years now...

This is true — by the 10th amendment the right of determining marriage is either the purview of the States or the people. (Now whether they conform to God's definition is another question.) The real point here is that the federal government sees itself as superior in all ways and the states as servile, rather than recognizing that it has limited powers which have been delegated to it by the states.

I'll follow Gods Law, ole ted should be focused on getting the fed out of the states' and private lives of everyone, before somebody gets hurt, likely a bunch of queers and the politicians they rode in in...

ya'll see what i did there ???

Yep; and I agree.
The legal realm is entirely a losing situation for Christians — once you put into law the definition of marriage you cede your authority to the government and then the government can change the definition after it has become the unquestionable in the area.

No, the place to fight for traditional marriage is in our own lives — treating it as though it is sacred. (This means churches refusing to remarry divorced people, refusing to turn a blind eye to adultery in its congregation, etc.)

67 posted on 10/08/2014 7:35:39 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark; Gilbo_3
"The legal realm is entirely a losing situation for Christians — once you put into law the definition of marriage you cede your authority to the government and then the government can change the definition after it has become the unquestionable in the area." "No, the place to fight for traditional marriage is in our own lives"

Christians in America also fight abortion in law and voting as well as in their personal lives, that goes for the homosexual agenda, porn, child molesting and everything else.

Marriage is defined in law, that was true for Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, as it was for Ronald Reagan and Abraham Lincoln.

One doesn't need to care about the law, it was never required and isn't required today. Under that situation, people could personally define marriage anyway they wanted to in private, in 1788, and in 2014 **IF** they don't care about the law.

69 posted on 10/08/2014 7:50:35 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: OneWingedShark; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
RE:”This is true — by the 10th amendment the right of determining marriage is either the purview of the States or the people. (Now whether they conform to God's definition is another question.) The real point here is that the federal government sees itself as superior in all ways and the states as servile, rather than recognizing that it has limited powers which have been delegated to it by the states. “

There is a reason why this didn't happen 10 years ago but it is happening now. Back then they were worried about voter backlash.

The liberal justices are certain that there will be no backlash over this now. If there was a chance that Dems get punished at the polls for this, and massive public protests and civil insurrection(maybe states defying them on this) , they wouldn't try it now.

But Obama took a pro-homo-marriage position in 2012 and had no trouble winning the election. The judges all were watching.

There is a reason why they call themselves 'progressives'. They make progress is their goals.

70 posted on 10/08/2014 8:46:30 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: OneWingedShark
No, the place to fight for "traditional marriage" is in our own lives — treating it as though it is sacred. (This means churches refusing to remarry divorced people, refusing to turn a blind eye to adultery in its congregation, etc.)

been there/done that...Pastor stood firm and the congregation voted to be worldly and allow a member to willfully lie and destroy his marriage...

pastor as well as several families [mine included] have left that place to the world to wallow like the hypocrites that they are...

Ephesisans 5 is a good barometer of the local Church...

71 posted on 10/10/2014 4:15:37 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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