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ISIS-Putin-Snowden Form Terror Threesome to Target America
Breitbart News ^ | October 7, 2014 | Brett M. Decker and Van Hipp

Posted on 10/07/2014 8:42:04 PM PDT by TigerTown

It is not an accident that the point man for the damaging disclosure of so much Top Secret information enjoys asylum in Russia and that the intelligence is ending up in the hands of Islamic extremists. “It is reasonable to assume that Vladimir Putin is giving information obtained via Snowden to ISIS or al Qaeda so they can damage U.S. infrastructure as his proxy,” former NSA executive Charlie Speight explained to us. “Without getting his hands dirty or spending a single ruble, Putin can bring us down and elevate Russia.”

The Putin-Snowden collaboration makes sense in the context of the Russian leader’s background in the trade-craft of international espionage. A former colonel in the KGB, Putin initially served in counter-intelligence before spending the bulk of his career in the directorate responsible for training and management of covert agents and the collection of political, scientific and technical intelligence. “It is becoming increasingly apparent that Snowden is actually a Russian agent who went into his NSA contractor job with the instructed intent to steal as much information as possible,” says Speight. “The dots connect that he already was a Russian spy before going to work for U.S. intelligence.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 4kooks; isis; nsa; putin; snowden
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To: TigerTown

Lol, Obama is the double agent, not Snowden.


21 posted on 10/08/2014 12:49:41 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Criticize, marginalize, demonize, criminalize.)
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To: Usagi_yo

22 posted on 10/08/2014 1:17:09 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: TigerTown; Southack; Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Idiotic article
Read my post and see if you can still say that again.”

Read it. Still lousy. Your post has nothing about Snowden.

I am not a student of Snowden, but I have yet to see anything he has released that fall into one of the following categories:
1. expose NSA illegal behavior (make him a hero whistle blower)
2. expose NSA questionably legal behavior ( makes him a risk taking idealist)
3. expose NSA immoral behavior ( makes him a risk taking idealist)

If you have something that doesn’t fit into these categories please enlighten us.


23 posted on 10/08/2014 3:51:52 AM PDT by Prophet2520
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To: TigerTown

ISOM (Islamic State Of Mind) supersedes all countries and individuals including this upstart republic and reformulated RUS. The moon never sets on Islam’s empire.

/brain damage…eclipse


24 posted on 10/08/2014 4:30:32 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: boycott
It was the CIA Director that told W that WMDs were a slam dunk. They left his side soon after we went in. I just don’t trust everything our “intelligence community” tells us anymore.

And it was the Russians who moved the WMDs into Syria...

25 posted on 10/08/2014 6:53:16 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Hey Obama: If Islamic State is not Islamic, then why did you give Osama Bin Laden a muslim funeral?)
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To: TigerTown

I don’t doubt that Putin would play both sides against the middle. However, long term, I think that he realizes that Russia’s interests align more with us than with radical Islam. He knows that if radical Islam isn’t controlled, Russia will be torn apart by its Islamic minorities. This is a far more immediate concern for him than engaging the U.S. in a race for geopolitical influence.


26 posted on 10/08/2014 8:25:38 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: CommerceComet

~However, long term, I think that he realizes that Russia’s interests align more with us than with radical Islam.~

Look back to 2001-2004. It has been played already.


27 posted on 10/08/2014 9:53:43 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

Complete with a schmiss, how awesome is that.


28 posted on 10/08/2014 9:57:17 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Criticize, marginalize, demonize, criminalize.)
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To: TigerTown
Oh, c'mon. Snowden's responsible for ISIS? Snowden's responsible for most US citizens being really fed up with a gov that spies on decent citizens while enabling maniacs to run amuck globally.

How about putting blame on the stupid policies of both GWB and Obama, which is idiotic regime change. That's what's caused voids, filled by militants originally armed, trained, and financed by the US.

29 posted on 10/08/2014 10:02:52 AM PDT by grania
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To: wetphoenix

No you Russkies are the load of B C.


30 posted on 10/08/2014 12:02:53 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Prophet2520
Read it. Still lousy. Your post has nothing about Snowden.

Snowden is just an idiot and likely a Russkie spy. I was more concerned about Russian ties with Islamic terrorism.

31 posted on 10/08/2014 1:32:35 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: CommerceComet
I don’t doubt that Putin would play both sides against the middle. However, long term, I think that he realizes that Russia’s interests align more with us than with radical Islam.

This just seems very stupid to say. Islamic terrorism is a creation of the KGB. Very likely Russia is still in control of world-wide Islamic and Communist terrorism. But Putin realizes that his interest align with us and against the Islamic terrorism he controls?

32 posted on 10/08/2014 1:36:02 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

~Islamic terrorism is a creation of the KGB.~

You are so much ignorant to say the least. Play back 150 and you would see the same as nowadays even in more extreme forms. Russia was at war with Muslims over Christian persecution in Middle East and Balkans and the West has military intervened on part of Muslims.
As for a modern Islamic terrorism it is purely a British invention. An idea was to influence radical group to counter arriving Jewish immigrants arriving to Palestine since earlier 1940s who were seen as a threat to a British Empire there. When in late 1940s Israel has emerged effectively finishing British dominance in the region, Islamists become their tool to push around it for a Brits, as well as to counter emerging American and Soviet influence as their empire were folding.
The fact that both Americans and Soviets fond ways to influence some of said groups after a few decades doesn’t mean they are responsible. When there are some powerful and dangerous groups it is a job of intelligence to gain influence with them.
And if we are talking about direct Russian ideological influence in the Middle East let’s say Baathism. It is exactly opposite to radical Islamism.


33 posted on 10/08/2014 6:11:41 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
You are so much ignorant to say the least. Play back 150 and you would see the same as nowadays even in more extreme forms.

So you're saying if the KGB did not create the PLO, and all these other terrorist and "liberation" movements across the world, or send Zawahiri to Al-Qaeda, they would have happened without the help of your masters?

Russia was at war with Muslims over Christian persecution in Middle East

Russia is an anti-Christ country that hates Christianity. The ROC is tolerated only because it is under the total control of your security services and functions as a way to promote Stalin and his form of government (which they prefer). According to your Communist and Fascist "Christians," Stalin was a great guy.

As for a modern Islamic terrorism it is purely a British invention.

So you're saying that Arafat was actually working for the British? Hamas and Hizbollah are not armed with Russian weapons, or receiving money and funds from Russian allies like Syria and Iran? Modern Islamic terrorism, with its hijackings, car bombs, and terrorist actions, were not trained and instructed by the KGB, even though their Communist counterparts were doing the same thing? Does being Muslim mean that they are automatically used to Russian methods?

When there are some powerful and dangerous groups it is a job of intelligence to gain influence with them.

Zawahiri was the number 2 in Al-Qaeda. Now he is the number one. By influence you mean "control".

34 posted on 10/08/2014 6:32:49 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: grania

LOL, you’re right. Snowden is not responsible for ISIS. ISIS is due to U.S. allies (for oil and money) Saudis, Qatar and other Gulf States efforts, funding and spreading radical Islam. Even a British General said so recently. Carter facilitated the Khomeinist Islamic regime in Iran back in late 1970s. Not a single U.S. admin has taken any tangible action to remove them since. And, in more recent times, we see another more far reaching Islamic menace not being stopped by the U.S. - the M.E. and N. Africa are playgrounds for the U.S. admins to fuel Islamic factional wars and then pretend to want to stop them by bombing countries in mentioned regions, allowing genocide, killing civilians, and installing more Islamic government.


35 posted on 10/08/2014 7:19:02 PM PDT by odds
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

~So you’re saying that Arafat was actually working for the British? ~

Go back to my post and read it once again. I haven’t mentioned Arafat and PLO at all. And of course, any informed person here realizes that Islamism haven’t started with Arafat and it is not near limited to PLO.

I also find your idea of Russia ‘controls’ terrorists funny. If you really think one may control these people you would make a perfect cat herder.

But it is typical blunder of British foreign policy, inherited by the US.
It is not if the US haven’t stepped into this crap earlier but you guys still refuse to learn upon past experience and also assuming that other powers, including Russia, acting based on this blunder too.

Your politicians all thought they can make Frankenstein which would for some reason obey them, it never works out, but you are keep trying, using the very same fabric but even less competent labor aka modern affirmative action government employees.

As for some Russian influence with the Islamists do you really think it is not a fair fight when one wrestles a gun pointed at him from another and then shots the perp in a leg? I think it is quite a hypocrisy to cry ‘armed assault’ on part of a ‘victim’.

I think Russian position towards Islamism isbto view it as an evil enemy. But it is realistically recognized as a force to recon with and probably use as one of sides against the middle.

Once again, it is the West, not Russia, which is routinely places all bets on radical Islamists.

The power of Russian design and the primary Russian allies in the region are Baathists who are exact antipodes to radical Islam.

~Russia is an anti-Christ country that hates Christianity. The ROC is tolerated only because it is under the total control of your security services and functions as a way to promote Stalin and his form of government (which they prefer). ussia is an anti-Christ country that hates Christianity. The ROC is tolerated only because it is under the total control of your security services and functions as a way to promote Stalin and his form of government (which they prefer).~

Despite the fact that you have brought too much russophobia trumping any common sense I would probably agree that the ROC is not the best friend of freedom.
I don’t go to their churches and don’t like their preaching because they are teaching to obey the elites and aren’t encouraging hard work, achievement and so on.
I wouldn’t link it to communists or security apparatus.
It might be primarily a feudal thing back to centuries ago since they were licking arse for the Tsars, nobility and influential merchants for dough.

It doesn’t mean all the Russians share the ROC view on Christianity and apprise their unholy union with government and corporations, including people identifying themselves as Orthodox.


36 posted on 10/08/2014 8:59:00 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
o back to my post and read it once again. I haven’t mentioned Arafat and PLO at all.

Both of which are creations of the KGB. If you are going to claim that the British are actually behind world wide Islamic terrorism and not the intelligence service of your country, you'll have to find a way to pin all these terrorists on them.

I also find your idea of Russia ‘controls’ terrorists funny.

Who cares what you find funny? Your a pathological liar from Russia who does everything he can to prop up his country on this forum. Case in point:

including Russia, acting based on this blunder too.

What makes you think I am accusing Russia of blundering? I am an anti-Communist. I recognize Russia as the primary enemy of the United States, and I recognize that Russia uses terrorism and mass murder in order to fulfill its goals. That was true of the USSR, and that is true still today.

I think Russian position towards Islamism isbto view it as an evil enemy.

Russia's position to Islam is exactly what its security services want it to be, as told by your own people going back 50 years. Today, your country aids and abets every criminal country on the planet, and is even building its own Islamic caliphate in Chechnya under Kadyrov, who, on top of keeping a sex dungeon, forces Islamic dress codes on little girls. Drop dead Russkie! You're just a dumb vatnik who gets paid in vodka for every lie he posts on FR.

37 posted on 10/08/2014 9:28:14 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: wetphoenix
I wouldn’t link it to communists or security apparatus.

I forgot to reply to this one. Of course you wouldn't. You are a skilled liar who mixes misinformation in everything you write. The ROC's patriarch is a "former" member of the KGB, and your churches are filled with Communists and Nazis who praise Stalin, as you yourself confess, and which even your own resident Nazis assert:

“In the first stages of Zyuganov’s creation of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (not without some participation on my part, as well as Prokhanov…), efforts were made to interpret and conceptually appraise the presence of the national component in the Soviet worldview (National Bolshevism), but this initiative was abandoned by the leadership of the [Communist Party], which had occupied itself with some other matters…. However, on the level of rhetoric and first reactions, Russian Communists in all senses present themselves as confirmed national conservatives – sometimes even as ‘Orthodox Monarchists.’” - Alexander Dugin, The Fourth Political Theory

38 posted on 10/08/2014 9:33:26 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
From the single form of your reply it is clear that you are totally immune to any logic. It was some really superb brain wash formula applied to you.
39 posted on 10/08/2014 9:37:28 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You don’t have understanding on what communism and leftism in general is.
That is why you are posting bullcrap supplied to you by ‘Russian experts’ and self-proclaimed ‘kremlinologists’ who don’t have a clue as well but have their agenda.


40 posted on 10/08/2014 9:43:41 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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