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More than a dozen states plan to cancel health care policies not in compliance with ObamaCare
foxnews.com ^ | 10-9-2014 | Jim Angle

Posted on 10/09/2014 4:05:39 AM PDT by servo1969

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To: goldstategop
That must be the reason. Nothing else makes any sense. Maybe he's given up thinking he can save his fellow Dems.
21 posted on 10/09/2014 6:02:42 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: bert; Sacajaweau
"If you move here you can get an advantage plan with no monthly premium"

HMO Advantage Plans without monthly premiums may be available in your location. I live in a rural area so advantage plans are more limited and HMO Advantage Plans are even more limited.

I enrolled Nov 2009 and came in under 2010 plans. At that time Windsor offered two HMO plans and Humana offered one HMO plan. All three had no monthly premium. But each varied with the copays and maximum yearly out of pocket costs.

I enrolled in the Windsor HMO plan that excluded mental healthcare, because that plan had the lowest copays, and the lowest maximum yearly out of pocket costs

But, Obamacare ushered in a rule that forced all the insurance companies to include mental healthcare in all their plans. So, in 2012, Windsor's plan included mental health care. The monthly premium was still $0, but the copays and maximum out of pocket costs were higher than Humana's.

So, in 2013, I switched to Humana's HMO plan. And stayed there in 2014. But, two weeks ago the Humana 2015 book came in and they are going to a $23/mo premium for 2015.

I can switch back to Windsor for the $0/mo premium but they have developed such a bad reputation that Medicare has issued a warning about the company. And, Windsor will probably start charging a monthly premium in 2016.

Since 2009 I have been in a HMO plan, but each year the copays and max out of pocket costs have gone up.

Some of this is attributable to Obamacare and some to rising costs of healthcare. But I knew this would happen when I enrolled in 2009. Then and now the HMO plans are cheaper than the PPO Advantage Plans. Then and now the HMO plans are cheaper than traditional medicare with a medigap supplemental policy.

That is based on my present health condition. If my condition were to change, my needs on insurance could also change. Whatever you do, it is only for one year.

Wherever you live, you can check out all the advantage plans(HMO, PPO, FFS) available in your area by going to the Medicare Advantage Plan website.

22 posted on 10/09/2014 6:20:53 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

23 posted on 10/09/2014 7:01:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Ben Ficklin; Sacajaweau

Bad news for bert....... I have not yet received my Humana letter for this year.

The 0 per month available on United isn’t accepted by doctor but my wife has it.


24 posted on 10/09/2014 10:19:39 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: servo1969

“If you like your health care plan, your can kiss my . . .”

Obama said it, but it’s not going to get his side as many votes as they hoped.


25 posted on 10/09/2014 11:49:44 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: kearnyirish2
Republicans need to hang support for ObamaCare around the neck of every Dem that supported it, and draw a high price for their destruction of our health insurance sector.

INCONVENIENT FACTOID

As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted (by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote) into the "Affordable Care Act:

OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.”

Repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

DEMOCRATS CHIME IN:

SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): “In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)

SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: “We believe — and we stand by this — if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “If you like your insurance, you keep it.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)

SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): “Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.” (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): “That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.” (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)

SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): “One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term ‘grandfathered plans.’ If you have a plan you like — existing policies — you can keep them. … we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.” (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)

THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): “Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve.” (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)

SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): “If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want.” (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)

SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): “We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you.” (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)

SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): “So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, we’re going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want.” (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)

SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): “Our Democrat bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it…”(Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)

SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): “For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage…” (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)

SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): “I also believe this Democrat legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change.” (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)

SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): ‘People who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it’ “We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage.” (“Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired,” National Journal’s Congress Daily, 6/18/09)

SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): “If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)

SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): “[I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 10/22/09)

SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): “If you like what you have, you get to keep it” “Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans won’t have to change. ‘If you like what you have, you get to keep it,’ he said.” (“Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says,” The Record, 6/19/09)

SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): “[E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it” “The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic Democrat plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it.” (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)

SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): “It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it.” (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): “I want people to know, the President’s promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)

SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): “If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it.” (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): “‘If you have coverage you like, you can keep it,’ says Sen. Sanders.” (“Sick And Wrong,” Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)

SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): ‘if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it’ “My understanding … is that … if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a Democrat bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. …under every scenario that I’ve seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it.” (Sen. Shaheen, “Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire,” Accessed 11/13/13)

SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): “As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the Democrat chairman’s remark is — is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. That’s a strong commitment. It’s clear in the bill … I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. That’s the bottom line for me.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)

SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): “‘If you like your coverage, you’ll be able to keep it,’ Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger”. (“Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care,” The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)

SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): “Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It won’t. If you like your current plan, you can keep it.” (“What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress,” Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)

SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): “..it honors President Obama’s programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything.” (Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) the 60th vote on Obamacare: "people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn't need to change it."

Shove it down their throats!

26 posted on 10/09/2014 11:54:55 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping!


27 posted on 10/09/2014 9:29:46 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

You’re Welcome, Alamo-Girl!


28 posted on 10/10/2014 3:04:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Go Gordon

I hope you’re right; I was hoping enough damage was done to deliver the 2014 mid-terms.

The Dems will probably just run an unknown candidate with no links to ObamaCare in 2016.


29 posted on 10/10/2014 3:33:04 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Let’s hope their Republican opponents do that.

However, just like the bleak jobs picture, I just don’t know if there are enough voters anymore that care about this. As evidenced by Obama’s two elections, there are a LOT of voters that will never pay for anything and never work a day in their life...


30 posted on 10/10/2014 3:58:20 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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