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The NRA Wants Your Submission(whiney dolt against your rights alert)
phillymag.com ^ | 10/8/2014 | Joel Mathis

Posted on 10/10/2014 9:40:43 AM PDT by rktman

The NRA is coming, folks. It will have your tax dollars or your submission to its pro-gun agenda — and, by God, maybe it will have both.

Don’t believe me? Then take a look at the text of House Bill 1243, which passed the Pennsylvania House this week, and which now sits before the Senate Judiciary Committee waiting passage.

Here’s what the bill does: It discourages Pennsylvania cities and municipalities from passing gun laws that are more restrictive than state-level gun laws, or from keeping such laws that are already on the books.

Here’s how the bill does that: It lets people sue Pennsylvania cities and municipalities with those too-restrictive gun ordinances.

And here’s who can sue: Gun owners — as well as any “membership organization” whose members are gun owners in compliance with state law, whether or not those members have actually run afoul of the local laws or not, or whether they even care or not.

That’s right: “Membership organization.” While the definition could, I suppose, technically apply to the Boy Scouts, we all know what House Bill 1243 really means: It gives the NRA the right to sue Pennsylvania’s cities and municipalities.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrolnazis
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Evil NRA alert. Man are this guys panties in a wad. Protect our rights vs infringe on your rights. Big gov overseer correction legislation. Come on PA. Do the right thing. Some of the comments are pretty good.
1 posted on 10/10/2014 9:40:43 AM PDT by rktman
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Philadelphia is a sewer, and Philadelphia Magazine is the liner at the bottom of the sewer.


2 posted on 10/10/2014 9:43:26 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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The Philly.com was enough of a stop sign for me.


3 posted on 10/10/2014 9:44:50 AM PDT by Temujinshordes
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This is a great law. For once in a million years, a piece of legislation that actually combats tyranny and pulls the liberals’ favorite tricks back on them!

You can bet this same writer is always Monty Burns’ing his hands together saying “Excellent” each time the liberals do this across the entire country and at the federal level.

Ohhhh poor baby, he doesn’t like it when someone beats him at his own game.


4 posted on 10/10/2014 9:44:59 AM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (I don't even know what to say anymore..)
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Here’s how the bill does that: It lets people sue Pennsylvania cities and municipalities with those too-restrictive gun ordinances.”

Oh, ok, soooo litigation is ok for thee but not for me? EFF off ahole.


5 posted on 10/10/2014 9:45:22 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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” pulls the liberals’ favorite tricks back on them”

Yep, thats when you can tell a liberal is buggin’, they start to squirm and whine. As they say, flak is heavier the closer you get to the target. :)


6 posted on 10/10/2014 9:47:23 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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Oops. Pennsylvania law already forbids Philadelphia or any other city from passing gun laws more restrictive than the state has passed. I guess the bed-wetting author of this rant didn't know that.

Laws of Pennsylvania

State preemption of local restrictions?

Yes

18 Pa.C.S. § 6120

The Constitution of Pennsylvania protects the right of citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the state. The state preempts local regulation of the lawful ownership, possession, transfer or transportation of firearms, ammunition, or ammunition components.[1][2]

Oops.

7 posted on 10/10/2014 9:47:40 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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More Americans have been killed by the ACLU than the NRA.


8 posted on 10/10/2014 9:50:04 AM PDT by Argus
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This guy needs to move to North Korea...where he will be safe. Forever. Where only his masters will be armed.


9 posted on 10/10/2014 9:50:28 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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Playing by the liberal playbook and the liberals do not like it. This gives people and groups standing to sue. Just like the Federal .gov has given to the environmentalist groups etc for years.


10 posted on 10/10/2014 9:50:29 AM PDT by therut
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House bill 1243 should be a State preemption law like in most other states. Then the eeeevil NRA wouldn't have to sue to keep more restrictive local laws off the books.

We all know the problem with these patchwork quilt laws is that if you are a CPL holder you have to be extremely careful as you move from community to community what those local laws are. Statewide uniform laws makes it easier for law-abiding citizens to remain law-abiding.

11 posted on 10/10/2014 9:52:03 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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we have folks in commierado suing the aurora movie theater (a sign on the door kill zone building) for not having security and having family members injured or killed by a libtard nut job. i would like to see a group get together and sue the theater for not allowing legal background checked citizens tp be able to protect themselves and for announcing to the world their theater was a designated kill zone.
of course the sign is not legally binding here


12 posted on 10/10/2014 9:55:32 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
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A good number of these anti-gun nuts are total hypocrites; many have their own guns for personal protection. I hope this guy is a true believer and doesn’t own a gun. Someday, he’ll probably get a lesson from a thug that also believes that law abiding citizens shouldn’t have firearms.


13 posted on 10/10/2014 9:56:12 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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14 posted on 10/10/2014 10:02:21 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Oh, poo. I thought the NRA was having an essay contest and was posting submission guidelines, how to send them a story.

Bummer.


15 posted on 10/10/2014 10:10:06 AM PDT by Cloverfarm
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Evil NRA alert.

Well, to be fair the NRA is evil… just not in the way this article posits.
(Seriously, they're like the Republican party always crying about something bad [i.e. they're going to take your guns, so send us money!] — all the while not addressing the underlying issues [GCA and NFA] and ignoring slam-dunk cases [New Mexico, South Dakota, and North Dakota all have state-statutes in violation of their respective state Constitution].)

16 posted on 10/10/2014 10:11:06 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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“State preemption” has long been a norm in legislation, preventing subordinate jurisdictions from locally overriding/overturning state law. This whined-about clause just clarifies who has “standing” to challenge violation of preemption laws, ensuring that state-declared lawful activity does not suffer “color of law / chilling effect” on an illegal local conflict which in turn stands because the state happens to take no interest in correcting the infraction. Alas, establishing “standing” has become problematic in law of late, so such explicit legislation is required make it viable.


17 posted on 10/10/2014 10:17:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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Seems the complaint is against explicitly granting standing to challenge such an infraction. Locales may be violating 18 Pa.C.S. § 6120, but if the state isn’t taking action then many courts will simply dismiss citizen-brought challenges on grounds of “does not have standing”; this law explicitly says any gun owner or organization DOES have standing to challenge such infractions.


18 posted on 10/10/2014 10:21:24 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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Isn't this the area where 59 precents voted 0bama and not even 1 vote for Romney?
19 posted on 10/10/2014 10:35:46 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Here’s what the bill does: It discourages Pennsylvania cities and municipalities from passing gun laws that are more restrictive than state-level gun laws, or from keeping such laws that are already on the books.

What does that have to do with the NRA? Some Pennsylvania lawmakers are trying to make sure gun laws are consistent throughout that Commonwealth. What's the bifg deal?

20 posted on 10/10/2014 11:26:45 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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