Posted on 10/18/2014 4:45:34 AM PDT by chrisnj
Many conservative voters are disillusioned at the Republicans for not standing up for their principles, for compromising with the Democrats, for having no spines etc. etc. They vow not to vote for the Republicans, or outright vote for the Democrats, to send them a message, to teach them a lesson. I think this kind of message/lesson serves no purpose but to cut off your own supply of oxygen.
Almost all the Republicans rejected obumbocrap (obamacare) but Harry Reid and his crooked Dems jammed it through deviously. The House Republicans have passed many legislations to repeal obumbocrap but Reid et al killed them all. The House Republicans have passed many good legislations but Reid and his crooks buried them all. The media blasted the Republicans on all their good constitutional/conservative acts, but remained silent on the Democrats' constant acts to destroy the constitution. This is a known fact and all of us always complain about it. Yet we are not showing any understanding of the difficult situations facing the House Republicans. While the Dem voters are behind their Dems 100%, we are demanding perfection while offering no help. We blame the Republicans for this and that but we are not working hard to create an opportunity or situation where they can stand on their principles and serve us faithfully. Why don't we vote them into majority in both House and Senate, so they have more control and feel less pressured to compromise, but more encouraged to listen to us to enact constitutional legislations for the good of the country. This is not excuses for the Republicans' non-performance. It is simply a fact that a good person can only do so much under difficult situations! We should understand that it is human nature to be rather weak, especially when under pressure. But given the favorable situations we are more likely to stand up taller for our principles. Remember when the Republicans were the majority in both Houses - even with a Democrat president Clinton, Congress was able to serve the people well! So if we are able to vote the Republicans into the majority, we just might be able to influence them into reversing the course to get our country back on the right track. Considering that many people have awaken and patriots are much more enthusiatically engaged in shaping government policies, we can realistically hope to get better leaders who will listen to the people again. All we need to do is unite and vote the crooks out but vote the acceptable albeit imperfect Republican candidates in, then work hard to influence them...
Certainly, with rampant voter fraud, ignorant and low-information voters, AND, the conservatives who vow to stay home or vote for the Dems, there is no hope that the Republicans will be in control of both Houses. It was said that those conservatives who wouldn't vote for the Republicans are part of the reasons why the Dems won the elections. So these conservatives are in effect cutting off the supply of oxygen to their own hopes (and our hopes)!
History suggests that the Republicans are more constitution-abiding leaders. We need to create the opportunities for them to abide to the constituion - by voting them into majority and then pressuring them into serving the people the way they should.
OK so Ronald Reagan was not even good enough for you. That tells us a lot, you are a party of one. Best of luck getting what you want.
Bush had really good momentum in the last full week of the campaign.
Then that d-bag Lawrence Walsh dropped all those Iran-Contra indictments. Many voters who were returning to Bush either stayed home or voted for Perot.
Dann fool that Reagan. I read right here we gotta compromise! He damn near lost two elections with his purist crap!!!!!
“And how do you do that with Mitt sending out his squads to torpedo them in those primaries? How?”
Torpedo them right back. You don’t give up and cry like a little girl.
Work to get your candidate nominated, if you don’t you have to accept that and try harder next time.
Jesus.
Yea, I hate Reagan. Totally.
bfl
And you did that huh? Yup. you sure did. So much so the fear you struck sent them screaming to a microphone to promise amnesty on their empowerment.
I just don’t have the words Tads. I just don’t.
.........”Jesus”
you will have to write him in, I don’t think he is running.
Why don't they oppose amnesty and campaign on that opposition? Polls consistently show that not only are the vast majority of Americans opposed to it, but it's also one of the top issues among voters.
The fact that a Republican in public office would even need to be "persuaded" to drop this issue is pathetic -- and is indicative of just how tone-deaf the leadership of that party has become. I'm sure the establishment GOP is gearing up a big PR campaign to place the blame for their defeats on the "Tea Party types and purists who stayed home," but that will hold no water when they themselves came down on the wrong side of such an important issue among their own supporters.
Are you kidding? He’s worse than that damn Reagan!!!
Also pathetic that some of their voters are so tone deaf they do not see the issue you describe.
Ouch, now Cripplecreek I have some respect for you, but that was utterly uncalled for.
How is saying that one should stick to their principles rather than aid what they consider reprehensible, foolish, or evil a bad thing?
Let's take one issue: Amnesty.
I don't want it passed, I think it would be stupid to do so. We have the GOP as-a-party essentially saying they'll push it if they get power — why should I support this?
Or, let's talk about what they've [not] done: they control the House — that means funding.
Have they cut funding to agencies that clearly overstep Constitutional restraints? (e.g. the NSA, w/ its domestic espionage; the TSA w/ its SOP of routinely violating the 4th)
Have they cut the funding of corrupt agencies? (e.g. the IRS, w/ its politically-based targeting; the EPA w/ its tyrannical and unreasonable vindictiveness?)
So, considering that they've not used what power they do have to any effect, why should we give them more?
Jesus's parable of the Talents is, I think, imminently applicable to the Republican party: that they took what we gave them and buried it.
I understand where you are coming from, I just don’t agree.
Of all the candidates on both sides, we got the worst possible choice in the last 2 elections . It is beyond sad the road we are on. I want our country to go back the other way.
I am old and probably won’t be here to see where this road ends.
” . I’m sure the establishment GOP is gearing up a big PR campaign to place the blame for their defeats on the “Tea Party types and purists who stayed home,” but that will hold no water when they themselves came down on the wrong side of such an important issue among their own supporters. “
The establishment GOP is the enemy of conservatism/tea party. And they have a huge amount of money to crush conservative candidates.
If anyone can show me through fact and logic how we go right by voting left, I’ll shut up now and forever. but the simple fact is as long as we continue to elect Republicans that are every bit liberal because we are to scared to do anything else, we get what we vote for. More liberal government.
And a huge army of online sycophants here and across the internet right wing sites to carry out their well funded plan.
We see several here today.
They are here, and everywhere else. We shall see who is right about amnesty, if and when the Repubs take the Senate.
The Chamber of Commerce OWNS McConnell,McCain,Flake,et al. The CoC wants cheap labor, and plenty of it. They have the clout. We shall see. I say they sell us out.
I’m not wasting time reading stupidity.
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