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Two Dead, Including Gunman, in High School Shooting Near Seattle
NBC News ^ | October 24, 2014

Posted on 10/24/2014 1:54:02 PM PDT by Deo volente

A student with a "blank stare" opened fire in the cafeteria of a high school north of Seattle on Friday, killing one person and wounding at least three others before fatally shooting himself, police and witnesses said.

A hospital official said three patients were in "very critical condition" after the 10:30 a.m. PDT shooting at Marysville-Pilchuck High School. A 14-year-old boy was in serious condition at another hospital with a jaw wound.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: arth; banglist; braking; marysville; seattle; shooting; washington
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To: Bettyprob

That’s not true.


61 posted on 10/24/2014 8:11:21 PM PDT by IChing
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To: Bettyprob

Of course, while untrue, it’s what most people have been taught to believe, just as they have been taught to falsely believe that serial killers are disproportionately white males.


62 posted on 10/24/2014 8:21:43 PM PDT by IChing
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To: Bronzy

“According to FNC just now, the shooter is a Indian”...Dot Indian or American?

American Indian! Local tribe. But this appears to be more a GF breakup coupled with some hard feelings on the football team of which he was a member.


63 posted on 10/24/2014 9:10:45 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

There are reports that two of the kids he shot are his cousins. What’s that all about?!


64 posted on 10/24/2014 11:09:27 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: bgill

I’ve been doing some digging on the kid....and the incident at the school. Imo we have a kid that had “typical” 15 yr. old emotions rolling from his girlfriend ditching him, got into a fight with a guy apparently he felt threatened by attracted to his girlfriend....and got kicked off the team for punching him.

Doesn’t appear he was handling his emotions throughout these events...his facebook entries attest to that...though you can’t really tell who he was talking to.

I have a feeling the kids shot were his girlfriend and the other kid...and any who were standing with them were so called collateral damage from his otherwise intentions.

The kids at school knew he was having difficulty accepting the breakup...and I do believe he was probably the ‘good kid” most said about him....he just let his emotions get the best of him and went on his rampage.

Sad, very, this happened...but kids today do not handle emotional events as were once taught how to.....they have not learned how to cope as other generations have. ..and too many parents are ‘unavailable’ when kids need the help to sort through things.


65 posted on 10/24/2014 11:24:10 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

“Sad, very, this happened...but kids today do not handle emotional events as were once taught how to.....they have not learned how to cope as other generations have. ..and too many parents are ‘unavailable’ when kids need the help to sort through things.”

We try to keep up the conversations with our kids. But who knows? I was fairly close to my parents, but never talked with them about stuff like our kids do with us.

As I guy I would have thoughts of hurting others (bullies) or myself (nobody likes me). Never did - I knew I would get in a LOT of trouble if I ever killed myself! Funny too - all the guns in our house were kept in the open display in my bedroom. (I never even thought of using one of them to get back at a bully.)

We DID have suicides in high school - and my college. Not to put the blame entirely on Hollywood, but I do wonder if the violence in movies, video games, etc. gets the more violent ideas of revenge ideas into a kid’s head now more than when I was a kid.


66 posted on 10/24/2014 11:50:38 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve
I just think that kids today have no back bone period. Political correctness has made them all into weaklings who don't know how to let things roll off their back...rather everything is all about the drama of the moment and if or not someones been offended, or God forbid have their “feelings” hurt.

Coupled with that you have parents who feed into all the drama. “Let's talk about it”..is the motto of parents today....when there are simply some things, times and places when it's ‘not open for discussion’...it's a matter of discipline and or frankness done ‘in their face’ if need be.

Parents are parents...not “friends” to their children. Far too many not only be-friend their kids, but they actually act like them!

I have no patience to coddle the young people today, and don't. Oddly enough in my workplace guess who they come to for advice!..and I mince no words in telling them how things are...and I use descriptive words without coloring them otherwise.

67 posted on 10/25/2014 12:16:13 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

“...everything is all about the drama of the moment”

LOL. My two HS daughters talk about that all of the time - too much drama.


68 posted on 10/25/2014 12:23:32 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve

I have three granddaughters....all teenagers..and it’s a house full of hormones when I visit!

Oddly enough it’s all drama when it has to do with them...but when they see drama otherwise, which since I’m an acquired taste, they don’t see it in the same light! LOL.


69 posted on 10/25/2014 12:40:25 AM PDT by caww
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To: BigEdLB

Social media commentary from this kid....going one side to the other.

The kid is paranoid. Wouldn’t surprise me if toxicology report indicates some marijuana usage, and he got all paranoid from that.


70 posted on 10/25/2014 3:56:47 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: caww

Great work, as always.

[My two cents coming up.]


71 posted on 10/25/2014 4:39:29 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (R" for Republican. "D" for Disease.)
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The problem with all romance-driven tragedy {as well as rape and perversion} is that people feel they ‘deserve’ something. This ‘you-deserve-the-best’ culture amplifies that mind-set, it stems from leftist global idolatry. No one deserves ‘the best’. We are all sinners. No one’s intentions are always pure. We should count our blessings more and get busy rather than being ‘Mr. Fret-and-Fester’.

[I have a once-a-day ping list if anyone wants on it.]


72 posted on 10/25/2014 4:40:21 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (R" for Republican. "D" for Disease.)
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To: caww

Back in the day, we had shotguns in our pickups out in the school parking lot and carried knives and Skoal in class and no one thought a thing about it. If you had a problem with a girlfriend, you dumped her or punched the guy who was flirting with her and dumped her anyway and put on your big boy pants. No one was kicked off the football team for what happened off the field. No one shot up the school.

It seems like this kid had a dad in his life and lots of family support. But something is missing in today’s kids.


73 posted on 10/25/2014 8:42:04 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: 21twelve

That whole thing about violence in movies, video games etc. seems to have convinced a lot of kids that none of it is real and that violent acts don’t have actual consequence——that they will recover as soon as the movie is over. Just like Daffy duck putting his lips back on ofter Henrietta slapped them off. I came to realize this about 30 years ago when my own son was grade school age and we bought our first PC. It had a program called “flight instructor” which was really very good and was great for practicing instrument flight. One night my son was showing me that he knew how to use it but he got in trouble and intentionally rammed the control tower. I dived off my chair. To me that was totally real. But he just giggled and started over. From that moment on I really worked on him to keep his head in the real world.

He was already a shooter then so one of the things I showed him along the way is how powerful and permanent bullet damage is. He races motorcycles now and fully understands the consequences of a screwup are real and permanent. It has been my long time observation that most parents are too lazyass and fundamentally iggorant to really hammer home reality to their skullsfullofmush.

I noted in the aftermath of this incident, as with most others, that half of the people, kids and otherwise, in the area immediately started sniffing, snivelling, whimpering, and otherwise reducing themselves to a totally useless state including not having the presense of mind to getthehell out of the way. I see stuff happen all the time and it is disgusting to have to stop some chick from screaming before being able to remedy/recover from the problem.

I live in a world of sharp things and powerfull machinery and snivelling when something goes south is not an option. By the time a kid is high school age he/she should have acquired enough command presence to at least gettheflock out of the way without blubbering. just sayin’


74 posted on 10/25/2014 11:41:40 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: bgill

“...He was Native American...”

That would be “American Indian”.

If you’re born here, you’re a “native” American.

Word mean things. “Native American” is term the left devised.


75 posted on 10/25/2014 12:51:46 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Deo volente; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

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The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

76 posted on 10/25/2014 12:57:24 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: bgill

...” something is missing in today’s kids”....

Enjoyed your post... and that’s not far from how it was as I grew up and in school. We had a lot of ‘freedom’.... Sure fights happened from time to time...teachers broke them up and life went on. It was part of guys becoming men. They knew they had to “defend” something...be it a girl a game or whatever. And nobody was sued for “touching their kid”. Ever!

What’s missing in kids today...I could make a list easily...but what or who do they ever “defend” apart from themselves? Nothing at all. But they sure do “protest” everything they’re lead to do so. Those are two different things.

Further they haven’t a clue what relationships are....nor for. Not in family nor in those they date....they don’t know “How” because their noses remain fixed on computers and cell phones....”empty” of life.


77 posted on 10/25/2014 4:05:28 PM PDT by caww
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To: cherokee1

...” most parents are too lazyass and fundamentally iggorant to really hammer home reality to their skullsfullofmush”....

Good post and I agree.

Let me share as my sons were teenagers their father was away over a long stretch of time, on business, pretty frequently at that time. Mu oldest son started to cop an attitude and try as I did he would not discuss what was bothering him. (Keep in mind I was quite aware they missed their father and for that attempted to “fill in” for him.)

Well, I’d finally reached my limit one evening as I saw no improvement, I went to his room and frankly told him neither of us would be leaving the room until he told me what was bothering him so. That enough time had passed and obvious he wasn’t figuring it out himself.

His eyes filled with tears as he candidly and firmly stated..”Mom, don’t you get it?... No matter how hard you try you can’t be my father!”... Boom!...there it was.

I was stunned, but shouldn’t have been. You can bet his father and I spoke at length on how we together were going to curb these trips away and manage the time he had when home real fast...and we did.

Kids need both parents and as teenagers they REALLY need their fathers...and if not then a male figure to have easy access with.


78 posted on 10/25/2014 4:29:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

GREAT POST, young lady! :)


79 posted on 10/26/2014 6:59:43 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Paulie

Any gun control laws are going to land up in fed courts down the road, including the USSC.


80 posted on 10/27/2014 3:21:44 AM PDT by Biggirl
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