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Gamma-Ray Bursts Limit Life in Universe
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 10-27-14 | Brian Thomas

Posted on 10/28/2014 8:53:13 AM PDT by fishtank

Gamma-Ray Bursts Limit Life in Universe

by Brian Thomas, M.S. *

What are the odds that life somehow self-generated? Many experiments have shown that the likelihood of just the right chemicals combining by chance in just the right proportions, orientations, and sequences to form even the simplest cell on Earth is so close to zero that some origin-of-life researchers have punted the possibility to some distant unknown planet.1 But a new study of gamma-ray burst frequency estimates has eliminated the possibility of life on other planets.

Astronomers have witnessed gamma-ray bursts (GRBs)—lasting from just fractions of a millisecond to several minutes—as the brightest explosions in the universe. The blasts' lethal energy output shreds any nearby biological molecules, whether in a functioning organism or somewhere in a planet's environment.

(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; bullcrap; creation; gamma; horsepucky; notanewstopic
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To: Red Badger

It’s a lot easier to believe that an intelligent Creator did it all, than to believe we just happened by accident..................

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Why did the IC create GRBs?


21 posted on 10/28/2014 9:31:28 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: VanShuyten

>>The article by the astronomers says nothing like that.<<

They get really angry when you point out their logic flaws and misdirection (ICR=Institute for Creative wRiting). Better to play along...


22 posted on 10/28/2014 9:32:09 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: Moonman62

>>Why did the IC create GRBs?<<

Sane reason he needs a star ship.


23 posted on 10/28/2014 9:32:49 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: fishtank
But a new study of gamma-ray burst frequency estimates has eliminated the possibility of life on other planets.

It doesn't "eliminate the possibility". At most, it reduces the probability, which is a very different thing.

Gamma ray busts are evidently fairly rare. One would have to happen fairly near to the Earth to have much effect.

Gamma rays would have to penetrate the atmosphere to have any effect on humans, and would have to penetrate quite a bit of water to wipe out "all" life on earth.

Passing through six thousand inches(500 feet) of air is enough to cut the level of gamma in half. To get from 30,000 feet up, to ground level, it would go through (very roughly) 60 reductions-by-half (and yes I know that the air at 30K is thinner than ground, but we're also talking about the whole atmosphere, so bear with me). 2^60 is about 10^18, a level of attenuation which is going to reduce the gamma level to a tiny amount.

24 posted on 10/28/2014 9:34:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Mr. K

Yes it is.


25 posted on 10/28/2014 9:35:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. We have no 'news media', only a Soviet Pravda.)
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To: ShadowAce

No it isn’t.


26 posted on 10/28/2014 9:35:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. We have no 'news media', only a Soviet Pravda.)
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To: BitWielder1

I am wondering the same thing. How much planet can a gamma ray burst penetrate?


27 posted on 10/28/2014 9:38:57 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: All

By the same logic, there could be life on other bodies as well...


29 posted on 10/28/2014 9:41:54 AM PDT by bennowens
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To: PapaBear3625
It doesn't "eliminate the possibility". At most, it reduces the probability, which is a very different thing.

Are you suggesting that the Institute of Creation Research doesn't know what it's talking about? Forsooth sir!

30 posted on 10/28/2014 9:44:35 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Lazamataz

No it isn’t


31 posted on 10/28/2014 9:56:06 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: Mr. K

Like hell it isn’t. I got proof, right over there in that jar.


32 posted on 10/28/2014 9:56:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. We have no 'news media', only a Soviet Pravda.)
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To: Lazamataz

Man, when that snake goes by at 8:45:16 it just cracks me up everytime.


33 posted on 10/28/2014 9:58:24 AM PDT by FredZarguna (His first name is 'Unarmed,' and his given middle name is 'Teenager.')
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To: Lazamataz

The Argument Sketch

From “Monty Python’s Previous Record” and “Monty Python’s Instant Record Collection”
Originally transcribed by Dan Kay (dan@reed.uucp)
Fixed up and Added “Complaint” and “Being Hit On The Head lessons” Aug/ 87
by Tak Ariga (tak@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu)

The Cast (in order of appearance.)
M= Man looking for an argument
R= Receptionist
Q= Abuser
A= Arguer (John Cleese)
C= Complainer (Eric Idle)
H= Head Hitter

M: Ah. I’d like to have an argument, please.
R: Certainly sir. Have you been here before?
M: No, I haven’t, this is my first time.
R: I see. Well, do you want to have just one argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?
M: Well, what is the cost?
R: Well, It’s one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.
M: Well, I think it would be best if I perhaps started off with just the one and then see how it goes.
R: Fine. Well, I’ll see who’s free at the moment.
Pause
R: Mr. DeBakey’s free, but he’s a little bit conciliatory.
Ahh yes, Try Mr. Barnard; room 12.
M: Thank you.

(Walks down the hall. Opens door.)

Q: WHAT DO YOU WANT?
M: Well, I was told outside that...
Q: Don’t give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
M: What?
Q: Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, maloderous, pervert!!!
M: Look, I CAME HERE FOR AN ARGUMENT, I’m not going to just stand...!!
Q: OH, oh I’m sorry, but this is abuse.
M: Oh, I see, well, that explains it.
Q: Ah yes, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.
M: Oh, Thank you very much. Sorry.
Q: Not at all.
M: Thank You.
(Under his breath) Stupid git!!

(Walk down the corridor)
M: (Knock)
A: Come in.
M: Ah, Is this the right room for an argument?
A: I told you once.
M: No you haven’t.
A: Yes I have.
M: When?
A: Just now.
M: No you didn’t.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn’t
A: I did!
M: You didn’t!
A: I’m telling you I did!
M: You did not!!
A: Oh, I’m sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
M: Oh, just the five minutes.
A: Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.
M: You most certainly did not.
A: Look, let’s get this thing clear; I quite definitely told you.
M: No you did not.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn’t.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn’t.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn’t.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn’t.
A: Did.
M: Oh look, this isn’t an argument.
A: Yes it is.
M: No it isn’t. It’s just contradiction.
A: No it isn’t.
M: It is!
A: It is not.
M: Look, you just contradicted me.
A: I did not.
M: Oh you did!!
A: No, no, no.
M: You did just then.
A: Nonsense!
M: Oh, this is futile!
A: No it isn’t.
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn’t; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn’t just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can’t. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn’t.
M: Yes it is! It’s not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that’s not just saying ‘No it isn’t.’
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn’t!

A: Yes it is!
M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
(short pause)
A: No it isn’t.
M: It is.
A: Not at all.
M: Now look.
A: (Rings bell) Good Morning.
M: What?
A: That’s it. Good morning.
M: I was just getting interested.
A: Sorry, the five minutes is up.
M: That was never five minutes!
A: I’m afraid it was.
M: It wasn’t.
Pause
A: I’m sorry, but I’m not allowed to argue anymore.
M: What?!
A: If you want me to go on arguing, you’ll have to pay for another five minutes.
M: Yes, but that was never five minutes, just now. Oh come on!
A: (Hums)
M: Look, this is ridiculous.
A: I’m sorry, but I’m not allowed to argue unless you’ve paid!
M: Oh, all right.
(pays money)
A: Thank you.
short pause
M: Well?
A: Well what?
M: That wasn’t really five minutes, just now.
A: I told you, I’m not allowed to argue unless you’ve paid.
M: I just paid!
A: No you didn’t.
M: I DID!
A: No you didn’t.
M: Look, I don’t want to argue about that.
A: Well, you didn’t pay.
M: Aha. If I didn’t pay, why are you arguing? I Got you!
A: No you haven’t.
M: Yes I have. If you’re arguing, I must have paid.
A: Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
M: Oh I’ve had enough of this.
A: No you haven’t.
M: Oh Shut up.

(Walks down the stairs. Opens door.)

M: I want to complain.
C: You want to complain! Look at these shoes. I’ve only had them three weeks and the heels are worn right through.
M: No, I want to complain about...
C: If you complain nothing happens, you might as well not bother.
M: Oh!
C: Oh my back hurts, it’s not a very fine day and I’m sick and tired of this office.

(Slams door. walks down corridor, opens next door.)

M: Hello, I want to... Ooooh!
H: No, no, no. Hold your head like this, then go Waaah. Try it again.
M: uuuwwhh!!
H: Better, Better, but Waah, Waah! Put your hand there.
M: No.
H: Now..
M: Waaaaah!!!
H: Good, Good! That’s it.
M: Stop hitting me!!
H: What?
M: Stop hitting me!!
H: Stop hitting you?
M: Yes!
H: Why did you come in here then?
M: I wanted to complain.
H: Oh no, that’s next door. It’s being-hit-on-the-head lessons in here.
M: What a stupid concept.


34 posted on 10/28/2014 10:00:28 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: FredZarguna; Lazamataz

>>Man, when that snake goes by at 8:45:16 it just cracks me up everytime.<<

I like the snake at 8:13:12

So, how many suicides can be tracked back to that video?


35 posted on 10/28/2014 10:04:23 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: Mr. K

>>A: Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.<<

Best line ever.


36 posted on 10/28/2014 10:05:24 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: freedumb2003
About half as many as Chocolate Rain.
37 posted on 10/28/2014 10:08:11 AM PDT by FredZarguna (His first name is 'Unarmed,' and his given middle name is 'Teenager.')
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To: Lazamataz

Is dat true?


38 posted on 10/28/2014 10:11:52 AM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: Lazamataz
Everything ever stated by anyone is absolutely untrue.

Well, crap.

39 posted on 10/28/2014 10:12:43 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: FredZarguna

>>About half as many as Chocolate Rain.<<

“Self,” I said to myself, “do NOT look up that reference (I had never heard of it).”

But my mouse hand and finders had different plans. I found it and heard some of it.

I wasn’t suicidal before that tragic action...


40 posted on 10/28/2014 10:13:43 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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