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Opec Plots US Shale Oil Takedown
IBTimes Co ^ | October 28, 2014 | Nigel Wilson

Posted on 10/29/2014 4:57:19 AM PDT by thackney

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1 posted on 10/29/2014 4:57:19 AM PDT by thackney
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No worries, if OPEC takes oil below $60, Obama will write an executive order to raise the gas tax.


2 posted on 10/29/2014 5:03:57 AM PDT by G Larry (Amnesty imposes SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL immigrants & minorities)
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To: thackney

Texas oilmen can take care of themselves. Don’t bet on OPEC in this contest.


3 posted on 10/29/2014 5:18:28 AM PDT by txrefugee
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I'd suggest the shale oil companies (and others involved) invest in training and arming their cadre.

Never thought of it until now but ... what a great place to have a disaster ... or a take-over.

4 posted on 10/29/2014 5:19:05 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: knarf

This is economic, not a physical invasion.


5 posted on 10/29/2014 5:22:29 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: G Larry

Well, it’s not “free”; frankly, I hope that things settle to a price that allows conservation and exploration to continue.


6 posted on 10/29/2014 5:27:22 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: thackney

Social-Economics, like that in the EU, is what will keep American Oil in production - at some point the local jobs even in globalization are not exported but brought home in order that money can be kept inside the country. OPEC welcomes oil from new sources, because they could be investing heavily rather than competing. This is the Epic Fail of Opec in that they tried to corner the market(s), rather than be an investment player in all of them.


7 posted on 10/29/2014 5:27:32 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: G Larry

“No worries, if OPEC takes oil below $60, Obama will write an executive order to raise the gas tax.”

Actually, I’d be in FAVOR of it, but only if:

1. Some was spent on replenishing and expanding the oil reserve.

2. Every remaining nickel went (efficiently) went into roads and infrastructure.

Too bad that the government has proven itself to be absolutely incapable of spending money wisely.


8 posted on 10/29/2014 5:30:29 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Jumper

That might be true of some of OPEC, but the player that matters, Saudi Arabia, has been building one of the largest refinery/petrochemcial complexes in the world for many years in Jubail.


9 posted on 10/29/2014 5:31:27 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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Some was spent on replenishing and expanding the oil reserve.

How big do you think it needs to be? Size related to overseas imports? How many days supply from OPEC?

10 posted on 10/29/2014 5:33:10 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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The U.S. produces more oil than Saudi Arabia, and more natural gas then Russia. OPEC's days are over.

http://www.aei.org/publication/petropreneur-harold-hamm-summarizes-profound-implications-great-american-shale-revolution/

11 posted on 10/29/2014 5:48:57 AM PDT by petercooper (Liberalism = Amnesty = Open Borders = Illegal Immigration = Ebola = Obama)
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http://www.aei.org/publication/petropreneur-harold-hamm-summarizes-profound-implications-great-american-shale-revolution/


12 posted on 10/29/2014 5:49:12 AM PDT by petercooper (Liberalism = Amnesty = Open Borders = Illegal Immigration = Ebola = Obama)
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The U.S. produces more oil than Saudi Arabia

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No. US oil production is up to 8.5 MMBPD.

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M

Saudi Arabia produces 9.8 MMBPD.

http://www.eia.gov/countries/country-data.cfm?fips=SA

But when it comes to affecting global market price, the main difference is:

We import 7~7.5 MMBPD of crude oil.

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_epc0_im0_mbblpd_m.htm

Saudi Arabia is exporting 8~8.8 MMBPD.


13 posted on 10/29/2014 5:55:55 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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There’s more shale than they’ve got of easy, cheap oil. Let’s have an economic boom on their cheap oil, and shut in the shale production. Then we’ll be the new oil kings!


14 posted on 10/29/2014 5:57:37 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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shut in the shale production. Then we’ll be the new oil kings!

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Something wrong with that concept....


15 posted on 10/29/2014 5:58:37 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: The Antiyuppie

” Every remaining nickel went (efficiently) went into roads and infrastructure.”

The pensions of road construction workers maybe.


16 posted on 10/29/2014 6:01:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: The Antiyuppie

The cheaper the better for the economy.


17 posted on 10/29/2014 6:02:01 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: thackney

Well, there was some sarcasm involved.

It’s just that I don’t think the Saudis are willing to run flat out for long enough to make a real long-term difference. I don’t think they can, and cheap oil would wreck their economies while benefiting industrial ones like ours, the Chinese, and the Japanese.


18 posted on 10/29/2014 6:02:13 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I don’t think the Saudis are willing to run flat out for long enough to make a real long-term difference. I don’t think they can,

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We agree. But there may be some short-term (1~2 year) fallout that will slow down US investment into shale production. Slow it down, but it will still grow, just at a slower pace. That would not be all bad.


19 posted on 10/29/2014 6:07:25 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: G Larry

I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some fedgov action taken against the frackers on behalf of OPEC.


20 posted on 10/29/2014 6:08:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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