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Some Ebola Patients Should Get Placebo in Drug Tests: FDA
Bloomberg ^ | November 5, 2014

Posted on 11/05/2014 9:22:05 AM PST by Diogenesis

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How many of the EXEMPT will be controls?
1 posted on 11/05/2014 9:22:05 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

Just because they got Ebola does not give the FDA the right to make them guinea pigs.


2 posted on 11/05/2014 9:23:40 AM PST by madison10
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To: Diogenesis

You know damn well, this is meant for the soldiers and it was ALWAYS Obama’s intention when he sent them.


3 posted on 11/05/2014 9:24:36 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Diogenesis

How many US patients have received placebos so far?

If not, why not?


4 posted on 11/05/2014 9:24:42 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: null and void; Smokin' Joe

Ping.


5 posted on 11/05/2014 9:25:06 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Diogenesis

This is an abomination. People who think this way do not value human life. Placebos for ebola? How can they even consider the idea?


6 posted on 11/05/2014 9:26:17 AM PST by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: Diogenesis

This is wrong.


7 posted on 11/05/2014 9:27:30 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Diogenesis

Is Edward Cox going to volunteer to expose himself to ebola then take a placebo?

IF not, he should shut the heck up.


8 posted on 11/05/2014 9:29:41 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Diogenesis
This reeks of the Tuskegee Experiment sort of horrorshow for science mentality.

How about this?

All around the group who gets the vaccine will be your control group: those who do not. No placebo necessary. Compare those stats and if there isn't a significant difference the vaccine didn't work.

9 posted on 11/05/2014 9:30:41 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Diogenesis

Nope. That is entirely contrary to testing protocols - when a cure turns up it is not only unethical but illegal to deny it to the control group. The FDA needs to review its own rules.


10 posted on 11/05/2014 9:33:14 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Diogenesis

This will be called racist.


11 posted on 11/05/2014 9:33:24 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: madison10
Just because they got Ebola does not give the FDA the right to make them guinea pigs.

You do not recognize the risk of not having a control group for testing a new treatment. There is a big chance that the experimental treatment does nothing and the patient recovers by their own immune response. If you do not have a control ineffective treatments get commercialized and then the damage is from the assumption that it is going to help.

How many have recovered without experimental treatment? Of those who survive almost all had no treatment other than palliative - fluids and nutrition.

You do a disservice to those who volunteer for clinical trials by calling them pigs or rodents.

12 posted on 11/05/2014 9:34:34 AM PST by corkoman
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To: madison10

A double blind study is the only way to determine a drug’s effectiveness.


13 posted on 11/05/2014 9:34:36 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: corkoman

Mortality rates for palliative treatment for ebola are already known and well documented.


14 posted on 11/05/2014 9:35:35 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Diogenesis

“Quotas” will be worked into who lives and who dies.


15 posted on 11/05/2014 9:36:05 AM PST by machogirl
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To: Diogenesis

In my opinion, this plan is EVIL because there is already
a large historic control which is near 95% death rate,
for those over 45 years old, and with n~14,000.

Any differential in survival will be immediately
clinically obvious.

Unless, the plan (which it appears to be) is to introduce
this into the American heartland forever.


16 posted on 11/05/2014 9:36:37 AM PST by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: Diogenesis

I think there is already extensive evidence that the controls, or untreated, are dying at a rate of 70%.


17 posted on 11/05/2014 9:39:23 AM PST by Will88
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To: Smokin' Joe
One breast cancer drug that was in a double blind study had early results were so promising, at least for what it was intended, that they came to the conclusion that it was unethical to continue with a placebo as part of the trials.

I have a relative that was in a trial for some drug for a while. He was taking the drug to begin with, before being asked to participate in the trial.

He knew he had the placebo in the trial because it didn't cut/break in half the same way as the real stuff.

18 posted on 11/05/2014 9:39:32 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

19 posted on 11/05/2014 9:39:56 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
A double blind study is the only way to determine a drug’s effectiveness.

Not necessarily......................

20 posted on 11/05/2014 9:41:46 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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