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Abbott says Putin compensating for failing economy with military aggression
9news.com.au ^ | November 14, 2014

Posted on 11/13/2014 7:43:40 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has accused Vladmir Putin of a "regrettable pattern" of military aggression which has culminated in warships off northern Australia.

At a joint press conference with British Prime Minister David Cameron today, Mr Abbott linked the decline of Russia's economy with an increase in that nation's assertiveness.

"It is part of a regrettable pattern, whether it's the bullying of Ukraine, whether it’s the increasing Russian military aircraft flying into the airspace of Japan, European countries, or whether it’s the naval task group which is now in the South Pacific, Russia is being much more assertive now than it has been for a very long time," Mr Abbott said.

"Russia would be so much more attractive if it was aspiring to be a superpower for peace, for freedom and prosperity, if it was trying to be a superpower for ideas and for values, instead of trying to recreate the lost glories of tsarism or the old Soviet Union," he said.

"Interestingly, Russia’s economy is declining even as Russia’s assertiveness is increasing."

Mr Abbott and Mr Putin are expected to meet at this weekend's G20 summit, where the issue of the downing of flight MH17 will again be raised.

Mr Abbott said there was a heavy responsibility on Russia to "come clean and atone" for its involvement.

Mr Cameron said continuing sanctions against Russia would be required in response to Russian actions.

"I still hope the Russians will see sense… but if they don’t take that approach … they will be putting themselves in an awkward position in relation to the rest of the world," Mr Cameron said.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: australia; coldwar2; mh17; russia
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1 posted on 11/13/2014 7:43:40 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
(title):"Abbott says Putin compensating for failing economy with military aggression "

Didn't Argentina try that too ?
And then revisit history and see how that went !
And now , check out their current economic situation .

2 posted on 11/13/2014 7:52:12 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I think that is a given but he is appearing so desperate and needy that I wonder who his audience is supposed to be that makes it worth losing his dignity and image as a responsible, competent leader?

Who is he counting on fooling while he appears silly to others, there must be some sort of plan to all this North Korea type blustering.


3 posted on 11/13/2014 7:55:03 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Sailing a fleet to Australia is in very poor form.

It is nowhere near the Russian sphere of influence.


4 posted on 11/13/2014 7:59:57 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both. Hat)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
KGB Putin has never worked in the private sector. He is a pure statist who has only worked for the government throughout his entire life. That's why he can never bring freedom to Russia, he can only take it away. He knows nothing about freedom and capitalism. He has never built or created anything in his entire life, he has only been a parasite who steals and destroys what others have created and built. That's why he brings only violence and destruction to everything he infects.
5 posted on 11/13/2014 8:02:56 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: ansel12
Putin's savage stupidity has so utterly destroyed his own nation's economy and well-being that Russia will never be given any respect as an economic power so the stupid, evil KGB mass murderer thinks he can simply threaten the rest of the world into giving him the respect that he doesn't deserve.

Respect of course is earned, and those who deserve it do not even need to demand it. People like Putin are always loudly shouting about how much they deserve everyone's respect, precisely because they do not deserve anyone's respect, and they know it. And it drives them crazy.

6 posted on 11/13/2014 8:09:50 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: BenLurkin

Australia’s gdp per capita is more than 4 times Russia’s.


7 posted on 11/13/2014 8:15:04 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Well said

Replace Putin with Obama and it’s also true...


8 posted on 11/13/2014 8:25:06 PM PST by varyouga
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To: BenLurkin
Sailing a fleet to Australia is in very poor form.

Lol...the 'fleet' consists of four ships, only two of which have offensive capability.

9 posted on 11/13/2014 8:42:24 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aide)
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LOL...they are still armed ships
LOL...they are still flying into several countries airspace’
LOL...they attacked and took over a country and are continuing to do so

Stop defending Soviet Russia’s actions.


10 posted on 11/13/2014 9:10:03 PM PST by KOZ.
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Putin’s a fool for messing with the Australians, and he’s only motivating the West to keep oil prices too low for Russia to break even for the foreseeable future.


11 posted on 11/13/2014 9:13:02 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: KOZ.

The Evil Empire is back! Do not deceive yourselves that it is not.

Like Dumbledore said to the Minister of Magic about Voldemort!

Will there be a parting of the ways?


12 posted on 11/13/2014 9:15:11 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: familyop

I first thought it was TX GOV-elect Abbott calling out Putin, and I was like, oh, it’s on now.


13 posted on 11/13/2014 9:16:11 PM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: mac_truck

Flotilla. I stand corrected.

And it is still in very bad form


14 posted on 11/13/2014 10:08:36 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both. Hat)
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To: mac_truck

And most of the crew planning to jump overboard and swim to Australia at the first opportunity!


15 posted on 11/14/2014 6:02:32 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: BenLurkin

Really?

I’d consider the Prime Minister of the country hosting an international conference threatening to ‘shirt-front’ one of the guests to be bad form.

Sending a couple of warships along to make sure things don’t get out of hand seems like an appropriate response.


16 posted on 11/14/2014 6:42:21 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aide)
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To: mac_truck

So if Putin feels that the Australian PM is being mean with him, he can start shelling their coastline? Don’t you think your hero worship is getting a little out of hand?


17 posted on 11/14/2014 9:26:35 AM PST by Agog
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So if Putin feels that the Australian PM is being mean with him, he can start shelling their coastline?

Lol...is that you Henny-penny?

18 posted on 11/14/2014 9:54:50 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aide)
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I’d consider the Prime Minister of the country hosting an international conference threatening to ‘shirt-front’ one of the guests to be bad form.

You think it's wrong for the Prime Minister of a country to say he will confront the leader of another that seems to share some of the responsibility for the murder of 38 of that first country's citizens, and demand answers, coooperation with the investigation, and if the investigation shows it to be necessary, provide compensation?

I don't. I expect no less of my Prime Minister.

Part of the problem in this case is people not understanding what the term 'shirt-front' means - and the Australian press hasn't helped with that. In Australian Rules Football, a shirtfront is a form of highly aggressive tackle, and newspapers in Melbourne, in particular immediately assumed that's what the Prime Minister was saying - because Melbourne is the capital of Victoria where Australian Rules Football is the dominant form of football.

But Australia is somewhat unusual in that because large scale sporting contests began here during the period where we were all independent colonies, different sports became popular in different places. Mr Abbott is from New South Wales, where Australian Rules football is a minor sport, and Rugby is the dominant form. Mr Abbott used to play rugby as a young man. In Rugby, shirt-front means something different - it means standing in front of somebody and confronting them verbally chest to chest, and that's what he meant by the term.

It's not as visually or verbally as spectacular though - so the world media picked up on the Victorian definition in their reports.

19 posted on 11/14/2014 3:57:23 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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20 posted on 11/14/2014 4:04:16 PM PST by McGruff (The whole Omama Administration is a breach in protocol)
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