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Specter of 'Russian Taliban' Looms in Ukraine
themoscowtimes.com ^ | November 05 2014 | Alexey Eremenko

Posted on 11/13/2014 8:56:01 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 11/13/2014 8:56:01 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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>Mikhail Remizov, a respected pro-Kremlin analyst

respected by whom? I would guess by Mr. Putin.


2 posted on 11/13/2014 9:05:33 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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German intelligence reported that Putin beat his wife Lyudmila when he was a KGB spy working with the Stasi secret police in East Germany during the Cold War. He further disrespected his wife by divorcing her because she got old and ugly. He left her for a muslim Tatar who he knocked up with two little bastards. So of course the Russian terrorists who serve Putin disrespect women the same way he does.

Real men do not beat on and disrespect women and real men do not admire the kind of stupid savage animals like Putin who do. Only pathetic low stupid animals admire evil men like Putin.

3 posted on 11/13/2014 9:22:30 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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Mozgovoi is a “true” Socialist, in the Nationalist Russian sense. He has embraced the “Soviet-Style” of leadership. He has also been a more-than-competent field commander, who has largely kept his mouth shut about problems with Moscow.

His forces are larger, and seemingly better-equipped than those in Donetsk, though the DNR forces seem to be better led.

Despite UK propaganda, the government in Donetsk is becoming more cohesive, in spite of the daily threat right outside of the city. The long delay in setting up a real civilian leadership structure in the DNR has really hurt them, though the original Ukrainian Mafia-types that originally took control seem to be largely gone now.

With Strelkov gone, and Bezler reported to be in Rostov, the Rebellion is becoming more “localized”. The now-veteran local field commanders like Motorola, Givi, and others, are taking over the day-to-day fight in Donetsk.

The government situation in Lugansk is less clear, and doesn’t get as much coverage.


4 posted on 11/13/2014 9:23:17 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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you can argue that Putin is no gentleman, but Russians in general aren’t soft people.


5 posted on 11/13/2014 9:28:28 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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you can argue that Putin is no gentleman, but Russians in general aren’t soft people.

Most people say that by two years old the "cake is baked." Putin was in women's care for those first two years of his life, so that's my guess where he learned his general brutality and attitude towards women.

And, I agree with you that the Russians generally aren't a soft people. I think it's part of their Slavic heritage.
Maybe some Ghengis Khan genes snuck into Putin's gene pool as well.

6 posted on 11/13/2014 9:36:21 PM PST by cloudmountain
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Russian colony having some trouble it sounds like, the “threat outside the city” would be the Russian army then?


7 posted on 11/13/2014 9:37:48 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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“the “threat outside the city” would be the Russian army then?”

No, the very large concentrations of UK troops and artillery north and west of the city are the threat, which is why control of the airport is so important. Controlling the Nuclear War bunker system under it is critical, for both attacking the city, and defending it.

The similar mine tunnel system to the west and southeast of the city is why the UK’s could gain no real ground, despite local superiority there, before the Illiovsk debacle.


8 posted on 11/13/2014 9:42:31 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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The real threat are the pogroms from the Russian Taliban it sounds like a real Lord of the Flies going on.


9 posted on 11/13/2014 9:44:02 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Also, the Muslim Tatar will ALSO grow old and ugly by the time she's 40, so Putin will trade HER in for two 20-year-old tarts.

The Muslim Tatar and Putin's future TARTS are women who KNOW they are stealing another woman's husband. They KNOW that it's wrong but they just DON'T CARE.
THEY are young and pretty, they've got the whole world in their crotch hands and they get a roll in the hay with a powerful politician. THAT is their thrill. They have crotch-power and ENJOY the drooling males. That's what young women DO.

HOWEVER, what goes around Tatar-tarts...ALL women get old, saggy, baggy and haggy. THAT is life.

Then, what're ya gonna do? Call the ghost busters? WHO ya gonna call?

10 posted on 11/13/2014 9:44:52 PM PST by cloudmountain
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Given the amount of propaganda, who knows...
“pogroms” is likely a big overstatement, even with a single reported public summary court.

I do think things will begin to heat up again, though, fairly soon.

Kiev is no proven to be in a very weakened position, and the right is putting on the pressure. They have been building forces around Donetsk for several weeks now, and the hard winter is nearing. Even with the U.S. taxpayers, via the IMF, writing blank checks, they can’t keep those troops in the field forever.

On the other side, the International political situation for a big move, obstensively in reaction to a UK attempt to take Donetsk, will never be better.

The reported movements of high-tech Russian equipment in the last week, if true, could be very telling.

My uninformed, arm-chair opinion:
If the reports of four Jaguars crossing over this week are true, they could be a real game-changer for the rebels. This is largely an artillery war, and though only four Jaguars aren’t enough to win the war, they could decimate any large-scale UK attacks with accurate and immediate counter-battery fire, essentially cancelling the artillery stalemate.


11 posted on 11/13/2014 9:56:37 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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Of course it is going to heat up again. The Russians are moving their troops and armor and will start their offensive again to take more territory.

The evil empire is back.


12 posted on 11/13/2014 9:59:28 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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The EVIL EEMPIRE is back.

It is that simple.


13 posted on 11/13/2014 10:00:26 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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The Debeltseve pocket is the most likely place for a rebel attack, IMO. It is a salient, and logically should be reduced.


14 posted on 11/13/2014 10:02:50 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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Chechen drug smugglers dumped in Ukraine by Putin


15 posted on 11/14/2014 3:15:30 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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...”intelligence reported that Putin beat his wife Lyudmila when he was a KGB spy “....

That’s not true , and because it is common in Russia for men to do so one of the reasons ‘she said’ that she married Putin and stayed with him is because “he doesn’t drink and he doesn’t beat me”.

I’ll believe her words over that of a German reporting otherwise. She also said that though she knew she didn’t love him when they married she grew to as time went on.

Lyudmila is an interesting study and their divorce was no surprise as they’d been basically living separate lives for a long while. It was just a matter of time to make it public, but most knew. And most knew about Putins other woman as well.


16 posted on 11/14/2014 3:30:12 AM PST by caww
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Putin’s announced that he will be flying missions on all his borders, including the Artic to protect his borders. Doing so because , of course, the entire situation between Russia, the US and Europe has certainly changed...as well throughout Asia, the ME and the Baltic nations.

We can all see that the deals struck, before Ukraine, nobody is keeping any more. The Eu and Nato too have changed their manuvers...so any that would even think Russia’s just going to stand by is just living in their imagination....

Besides...EU and US are still in the cold war frame of mind ...while ol’ Putin has moved ahead with China and throughout Asia , India the ME and any who are open for business. He’s going to definately protect those interests and project deals he’s struck...... While Obama only brings home a worthless “Chamberlain” Document from China meaning absolutely nothing.

However...Putin is not to be trusted nonetheless....he’s going to do his own thing, as is China and the nations now lining up with them, regardless of what EU or US thinks.....and we’ve been saying that he would for some time now. With just a two year window until Obama is gone, Putin and Chinia are going to be busy, just as we’ve seen.


17 posted on 11/14/2014 3:45:06 AM PST by caww
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Of course she could not publicly admit that Putin beat her. She has to say that he is a great guy and a fine moral upstanding gentleman. If you believe that you are quite gullible and your judgment about other matters should be dismissed as well. It says a lot about you that you accept her public statements at face value but do not believe the reporting of German spies who watched them covertly.

Putin is obviously a brutal and stupid man, the claim that he beat his wife rings true. He clearly did not value her as a wife since they have not lived as a true married couple and he threw her away like trash after she was loyal to him for so many years.


18 posted on 11/14/2014 11:29:55 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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They don’t call fellow travelers useful idiots for nothing.


19 posted on 11/14/2014 11:36:28 AM PST by Agog
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I don;t just accept her statements said publicaly...I’ve studied her for several years.However I forgot this and previous post where you’ve made it very clear of hatred for Russia and anything about Putin. So I digress. Frutiless to go further in conversation.


20 posted on 11/14/2014 8:20:10 PM PST by caww
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