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Sowell: Racial Quota Punishment
Creators Syndicate ^ | November 18, 2014 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 11/17/2014 1:02:31 PM PST by jazusamo

If anyone still has any doubt about the utter cynicism of the Obama administration, a recent agreement between the federal government and the Minneapolis Public Schools should open their eyes.

Under the Obama administration, both the Department of Education and the Department of Justice have been leaning on public schools around the country to reduce what they call the "disproportionate" numbers of black male students who are punished for various offenses in schools.

Under an implicit threat of losing their federal subsidies, the Minneapolis Public Schools have agreed to reduce the disparity in punishment of black students by 25 percent by the end of this school year, and then by 50 percent, 75 percent and finally 100 percent in each of the following years. In other words, there are now racial quota limits for punishment in the Minneapolis schools.

If we stop and think — as old-fashioned as that may seem — there is not the slightest reason to expect black males to commit the same number of offenses as Asian females or any other set of students.

When different groups of human beings have behaved differently in all sorts of ways, in countries around the world, for thousands of years of recorded history, why would we accept as dogma that the only reason one set of students gets punished more than others is because the people who are doing the punishing are picking on them?

Politically — which is the way the Obama administration looks at everything — any time they can depict blacks as victims, and depict themselves as their rescuers, that means an opportunity to get out the black vote for Democrats.

On the surface, this may look like a favor to blacks. But only on the surface.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: doe; doj; holder; minneapolis; obama; punishment; racialquotas; schools; sowell; thomassowell

1 posted on 11/17/2014 1:02:31 PM PST by jazusamo
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2 posted on 11/17/2014 1:04:39 PM PST by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin)
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To: jazusamo

This is why schools started enacting stupid “zero tolerance” policies. Because if a black kid gets expelled for bringing a Glock to school and a white who brings a butter knife doesn’t, they’ll be accused of racism. Easier to throw the book at everyone.


3 posted on 11/17/2014 1:10:09 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: jazusamo

More of that “fundamental change” the LIV’s were so eager for,


4 posted on 11/17/2014 1:11:35 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: jazusamo

All the more reason for the Republican President to abolish the Dept of Ed come Jan of 2017.


5 posted on 11/17/2014 1:18:51 PM PST by technically right
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To: Hugin

Abidicating critical thinking -just following orders. Nothing scarier than a ‘law & order liberal.


6 posted on 11/17/2014 1:19:06 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: jazusamo

Can anyone say white flight?


7 posted on 11/17/2014 1:19:33 PM PST by Lake Living
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To: jazusamo
jazusamo:".. the Minneapolis Public Schools have agreed to reduce the disparity in punishment of black students by 25 percent by the end of this school year,
and then by 50 percent, 75 percent and finally 100 percent in each of the following years."

What this really is :

JUST-US DEPT encodeing/forcing BLACK PRIVILEDGE !!


There truly is no 'justice' in the "JUST-US" Dept. when it is based on the color of your skin , not the character of the person.
8 posted on 11/17/2014 1:20:49 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: jazusamo

Thomas Sowell sees beyond the immediate short-term effects and sees the long-term unintended consequences of actions. He has more wisdom than all of the Leftists combined. It’s called common sense. He has it. The leftists don’t.


9 posted on 11/17/2014 1:23:05 PM PST by DeweyCA
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Amen...Color of skin is what it’s all about with 0bama, Holder and this administration, those percentages are mind boggling.


10 posted on 11/17/2014 1:31:11 PM PST by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin)
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11 posted on 11/17/2014 1:38:25 PM PST by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin)
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To: Hugin
This is why schools started enacting stupid “zero tolerance” policies. Because if a black kid gets expelled for bringing a Glock to school and a white who brings a butter knife doesn’t, they’ll be accused of racism. Easier to throw the book at everyone.

Yes but now they changed it again so the black bringing a glock will have all possible mitigating circumstances examined while the white with a butter knife is expelled no questions asked. This is the end game of the racial agitators, namely black privelege. All the talk about equality is just a lie designed to play to traditional American's sense of justice and obfuscate the black supremecist's true intentions.

12 posted on 11/17/2014 2:07:52 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: jazusamo

Always moving closer and closer, to completely equal mediocrity.

Bad behavior has no negative consequences for blacks, and system is obviously unfair to non-blacks.

The non-blacks, with higher IQs, try to move elsewhere, and many do. A variation of white-flight, and reinforcement of the ghetto.


13 posted on 11/17/2014 2:19:58 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: jazusamo
Punishing a kid for misbehavior in school when he is 10 years old may reduce the chances that he will have to be sent to prison when he is 20 years old.

Agreed, but I think it goes deeper than that. I volunteered as an after-school tutor for a local organization for a semester a few years back. All boys, lower grade-school ages, mostly black and/or hispanic, and mostly good kids. But then there was that one guy...

To put it bluntly, one kid, who was maybe eight or nine, made the experience hellish for everyone (fortunately, he often didn't bother showing up). My very first day there, all the other kids told me what a bully he was and how everyone was scared of him at school, how he even scared the teachers, and I could believe it. I wasn't scared of him (he was less than half my size), but as a homeschooler I developed a lot more sympathy for school teachers who are trying to hold class with kids like this around.

This kid was very bright and had social skills up the wazoo, but he was using those skills in all the wrong ways. Nine years old, max, and he already knew exactly how to play the system. This was the year Disney had the "give a day, get a day" deal, so there were a bunch of college kids volunteering there for a while, and I watched one afternoon while this kid totally played a naive college girl who was twice his age. Couldn't decide if it was more horrifying or fascinating, but the kid, years short of puberty, was just glorying in the fact that he had the entire attention of this pretty blonde white girl, and while she got more and more quietly frustrated, because she wasn't accomplishing what was supposedly her goal (getting him to finish his homework), she also had no idea how to cope with him.

For twelve years, kids like this think they have the system whipped. Nearly everyone they deal with they can either manipulate or bully into giving them attention, so they do pretty much what they want and are convinced it's their smarts and charm that's getting them by. Anyone who sees right through them, they dismiss as hateful or racist. Problem is, it is not just their smarts and charm empowering them; it's mostly the system they're in, so once a kid like this gets out of school, all that power goes Poof!

Without school trapping them in the same room with this guy, his peers won't have anything to do with him. Without the responsibility to take care of him, neither will most adults. People like that can often charm their way into a job now and then, but they can't keep the job, because all they know is bullying, and how to manipulate people dedicated to helping them, and neither one of those skills gets you anywhere in the working world.

This is actually one of the reasons I strongly favor vouchers and eliminating public schools, insofar as possible. Getting thrown out of school after school might possible be the Wake Up Call this kid and his family needs. And giving schools the right to remove these kids from the classroom is definitely in the best interests of the other kids, the ones who hope to be able to get enough of an education to hold down a real job once they grow up.

To me, putting quotas on the number of black kids you can discipline is actively dooming kids to poverty. Not just the ones who go to prison, but also the ones who really want to learn, but instead spend much of their school time watching the teacher coping with deliberately disruptive yahoos.

14 posted on 11/17/2014 2:45:18 PM PST by Amity
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To: Amity

Many years ago the kids in the school system I went to couldn’t get away with that but for a very few exceptions and they were exceptions because of the occasional weak teacher.

Of course things were so different then. After a visit or two to the principals office, he or she would break out the paddle and as Dr. Sowell noted you’d probably get a lot worse from home.

Now with PC, child abuse laws and accusations of racism it’s a whole different world in school, it’s sad for the students who actually want to learn.


15 posted on 11/17/2014 3:08:03 PM PST by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin)
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To: jazusamo
Of course it's sound advice, but it will fall on deaf ears. There is no preventing liberals from believing that blacks kids are disciplined disproportionately because of racism. This with the great majority of public school teachers being Obama-loving liberals. Many mostly black schools are little more than chaotic holding pens thanks to the troublemakers.

What would help the black kids who have a chance to succeed is for the loser-troublemaker black kids to be pulled out of school at the earlier signs of misbehavior. The troublemakers would be isolated at schools designed to see if there's any hope of correcting them. The more they misbehave, the more severe the punishment (including corporal punishment) until they learn to behave.

Separated from the troublemakers, the other black kids have a chance. As it stands now, they have little or no chance.

16 posted on 11/17/2014 3:25:46 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless2

“There is no preventing liberals from believing that blacks kids are disciplined disproportionately because of racism. This with the great majority of public school teachers being Obama-loving liberals. Many mostly black schools are little more than chaotic holding pens thanks to the troublemakers.”

Liberals know exactly what blacks kids are disciplined for; that is why they live as far away from them as possible. What kind of people do you think are expelling/suspending blacks? The conservatives working in the ghetto schools?

Liberals want black kids in your schools, not theirs.


17 posted on 11/17/2014 4:51:55 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action isa economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Amity; jazusamo

>>Punishing a kid for misbehavior in school when he is 10 years old may reduce the chances that he will have to be sent to prison when he is 20 years old.

Don’t worry. We’ll fix this by enacting similar quotas for prisons.


18 posted on 11/17/2014 5:44:56 PM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: generally

We’ll fix this by enacting similar quotas for prisons.

Ha! Although you know there are people wanting to do that. *sigh*

19 posted on 11/17/2014 5:49:22 PM PST by Amity
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bkmk


20 posted on 11/18/2014 5:33:01 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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