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Stephen Kessler: Why all Californians are Mexican
Santa Cruz Sentinel ^ | 16 November 2014 | Stephen Kessler

Posted on 11/18/2014 12:44:50 PM PST by Regulator

The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848, which ended the Mexican War and for a cool $15 million acquired what is now the entire southwestern United States — Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah and parts of Wyoming and Colorado — from Mexico was an uncannily well-timed moment in U.S. history. Could American negotiators have known that within a year gold would be discovered in California and the flood of Anglo and other immigrants into this state would be the beginning of a population boom still going on 165 years later?

(Excerpt) Read more at santacruzsentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; illegalimmigration; mexico
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To: Regulator
RE: "Mr. Kessler . . . is of the opinion that This Is Mexico and It's Their Land, Not Yours.

Moonbeam must agree because when I go to California DMV it's in Spanish with an option to view it in English -- or the fault is in my browser. I immediately exit and look for other sources.

41 posted on 11/18/2014 1:39:28 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Yes it does.


42 posted on 11/18/2014 1:41:02 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Regulator

Texas was ALREADY a part of the US (or at least an independent Country).


43 posted on 11/18/2014 1:45:24 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: Sherman Logan

To the victor go the spoils.


44 posted on 11/18/2014 1:46:40 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: Regulator
.... According to this logic ...... Does this mean that the previous owner of Mr. Kessler's house before he bought it ...... Is actually the legal owner of his house and not him?

.... Liberal logic would be quite entertaining and amusing if they weren't the ones actually running what is left of what was once called "The Free World."

45 posted on 11/18/2014 1:52:47 PM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: pabianice
Nationality:

noun: Mexican(s)
adjective: Mexican
Ethnic groups:

mestizo (Amerindian-Spanish) 60%, Amerindian or predominantly Amerindian 30%, white 9%, other 1%

Only 30% of Mexican nationals are Amerindian or predominantly Amerindian. The rest are heavily Spanish.

Languages:

Spanish only 92.7%, Spanish and indigenous languages 5.7%, indigenous only 0.8%, unspecified 0.8%

note: indigenous languages include various Mayan, Nahuatl, and other regional languages (2005)

This further deminishes that claim that the Mexicans are the true owners of the South West United States.

SOURCE

Under People and Society

46 posted on 11/18/2014 1:59:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The mid-term elections were perfect for him. Now Obama can really lead from behind.)
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To: DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker

Check out the post this responds to.


47 posted on 11/18/2014 2:00:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The mid-term elections were perfect for him. Now Obama can really lead from behind.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Not to mention that in most parts of this vast area, including most of California, Mexicans never even visited let alone settled it.


48 posted on 11/18/2014 2:05:20 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Regulator

HEY I thought Eastern European Irish and Native American

with Alaskan native blood in me

I did Ancensty DNA LOL!


49 posted on 11/18/2014 2:07:10 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Mexicans probably wish we’d annex their country.


50 posted on 11/18/2014 2:07:56 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Regulator

I, for one, would happily give California back to Mexico and would consider throwing in some boot. California’s pension debt is ultimately going to be paid by “us” if we don’t let Mexico have it. Think we could get them to take New Messico as well?

If that doesn’t work, and since Yucca Mountain is on hold, could we have thirty days to get our friends out - then turn LA into a nuclear test site?


51 posted on 11/18/2014 2:08:46 PM PST by gartrell bibberts ( 50% + of Americans are of below average intelligence today, and have no sense of honesty.)
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To: NormsRevenge

That so true

Since if you realize think about it how Spanish govt would address us

Senor Senora or Senorita

or Yankee pig or piglet


52 posted on 11/18/2014 2:10:06 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: DoughtyOne

That what I hear up when I living in Alaska

There some Russia natives who think Alaska “was stolen” from Russia don’t ask LOL!


53 posted on 11/18/2014 2:12:14 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: NormsRevenge

Be honest Norm

If you look at all cities names and road name give props to Spanish mission settlers they know how leave good road names LOL!


54 posted on 11/18/2014 2:13:31 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Situation is different in NM. The Spanish had been there for a very long time indeed, predating the Pilgrims. They also got all over, if only intermittently, generally on military and trading expeditions.

Texas was colonized, very partially, starting in 1690.


55 posted on 11/18/2014 2:17:18 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Regulator

The guy is a friggin’ POET! Yeah, that’s a qualification for valid social, political, and historical insight.


56 posted on 11/18/2014 2:22:19 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Regulator
And yet, if someone were to argue that the East Coast somehow "belonged" to its first settlers, he'd probably object.

Like a lot of North Americans, he doesn't understand that Mexico and Latin America have many internal fissures, just as we do here. Indians, Spaniards, Mestizos, and Blacks weren't all one happy family.

And if the US hadn't entered the picture, we might see the same conflicts going on between residents of San Francisco, Los Angeles, Santa Fe, San Antonio, and migrants from further South.

57 posted on 11/18/2014 2:26:09 PM PST by x (Phew. you had me worried there for a moment. I thought you were going to change everything on me.)
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To: RightGeek
California had Spanish settlers mostly ignored by a corrupt Mexican government that claimed a large part of Central America too.

Yes. California had mostly native Americans (Indians), with a sprinkling of Spanish and European settlers. There were far more Europeans here than Mexicans. The Russians had large outposts nearly all the way down California to San Francisco. The Spaniards pretty much stopped at the north end of SF Bay, near where the Russians were camped. Russians and Europeans were here hunting animal skins, and traded with the Spaniards. Very few Mexicans until the Americans took over. And even then, few Mexicans until the mid-twentieth century. The Spaniards were glad when the U.S. government took over, many making deals in support of the U.S. instead of Mexico.

One of the most famous was Mariano Vallejo, the governor of Spanish California. The Russians offered to sell Fort Ross to the new Mexican government, but Mexico delayed. Vallejo helped broker the sale to an American, John Sutter (a wheeler-dealer con artist who later discovered gold). Vallejo and other Spaniards saw that the Mexican government was corrupt, and sided with Americans. City of Vallejo is named for him, nearby Benicia for his wife. Back in the 1950s and 1960s I visited nearly every Mission in California, lots of very interesting history, little having to do with Mexicans who briefly held control of California.

58 posted on 11/18/2014 2:29:28 PM PST by roadcat
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To: SevenofNine

Yeah, I’m sure there are some die-hards up there that believe that. To you and I it seems outlandish that they could believe that in this day and age.


59 posted on 11/18/2014 2:30:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The mid-term elections were perfect for him. Now Obama can really lead from behind.)
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To: ought-six

In a Liberal’s mind that makes his opinion more valid than yours or mine.

Artists and Poets are the “intellectual elite”

They are the ones that SHOULD be running the country, don’t you know?

/sarc


60 posted on 11/18/2014 2:39:07 PM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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