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XL Keystone vote underway in Congress (Live Thread)
November 18, 2014 | Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Posted on 11/18/2014 3:03:26 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

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To: spokeshave
The refinery will provide 300 local construction jobs and 75 to 100 full-time jobs after it’s operational, officials said.

And the refinery and its employees will spend lots of money in the local communities, on groceries, housing, hardware, vehicles and services, bringing unprecedented economic activity to that area.

181 posted on 11/18/2014 9:12:40 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: deport

To all that post the premise that the Repubs are the same as the Dems, I suggest you read the yeas and nays along with their party affiliation and try and smile the next time you state that.


182 posted on 11/18/2014 11:37:47 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: BillyBoy

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 113th Congress - 2nd Session
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=2&vote=00280

Measure Title: A bill to approve the Keystone XL Pipeline.

List of every senator’s vote at link


183 posted on 11/19/2014 5:41:50 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: TexasGunLover

I understand, but I think we’re starting to see a trend. It began in 2010 and while voters gave Zero a second chance (some of it racial guilt, some of it a genuine feeling that stuff could be fixed), I don’t think they’ll be as forgiving this time. But we’ll see.


184 posted on 11/19/2014 6:01:18 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: mware

Actually, a successful cloture (60%) is not needed, if unanimous consent w/o objection is given. No one goes on record for that. Further, a successful cloture vote is a vote to stop debate, forcing an immediate vote. Sometimes, a member votes for cloture and then votes against the measure. Soooo, technically, it only takes 50% + 1 of Senators present to pass a measure its first time. If the measure suffers a presidential veto, it must survive the second time with, at least, a 66.67% majority of members present on both sides of Congress, lest it fail.


185 posted on 11/19/2014 6:16:16 AM PST by Radtechtravel
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To: Radtechtravel
Soooo, technically, it only takes 50% + 1 of Senators present to pass a measure its first time.

Provide one or more Senators do not decide to Filibuster.

I think that is fantasy on this hot-button topic.

186 posted on 11/19/2014 6:31:46 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

Read my first sentence. You just repeated what I’ve already written. If one or more members object to a call for vote, unanimous consent fails and a vote to call for the question (cloture) may be invoked or not. Debate can continue indefinitely or not. HOWEVER, any movement to deny any Senator’s right to speak on a given measure requires either unanimous consent or a successful call for the question (cloture).


187 posted on 11/19/2014 6:48:31 AM PST by Radtechtravel
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To: Radtechtravel
Read my first sentence.

Ok

Actually, a successful cloture (60%) is not needed, if unanimous consent w/o objection is given.

I put in bold the portion I think that is a fantasy. I think anything past that point is meaningless.

Do you really believe that not a single democrat senator would not object? Harry Reid for one example?

188 posted on 11/19/2014 6:53:33 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

I agree that in this instance, unanimous consent is unlikely. My original post was a response to another poster’s questions re: some Senate requirements in general, not for this case, for passage of measures or for stopping debate. I appreciate your input.


189 posted on 11/19/2014 7:16:04 AM PST by Radtechtravel (May God bless America, keeping her home to the Brave, land of the Free. Long live the Republic.)
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To: thackney

I agree that in this instance, unanimous consent is unlikely. My original post was a response to another poster’s questions re: some Senate requirements in general, not for this case, for passage of measures or for stopping debate. I appreciate your input.


190 posted on 11/19/2014 7:16:08 AM PST by Radtechtravel (May God bless America, keeping her home to the Brave, land of the Free. Long live the Republic.)
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To: Candor7

Have you seen miss mary piggy, crawling in the dirt, and for kissing up to Bammy her life is getting worse, clutching for her seat, to save her bacon.

Her lover Dems did her dirty-— left her hanging by one vote just to protect their holy Bam from having to use his veto.
Bye bye mary— next time don’t prostitute yourself out to the dirty Dems for cheap thrills love.


191 posted on 11/19/2014 8:08:55 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: tflabo

Mary is a democrat. The rest but a few are pretty much left of Mary now,not so called democrats but liberal fascist psychopomps like their Great Leader. America is gonna catch up to each one of these leftists....soon.

Mary has been bent over in public by the left and given it right up there.She is either history or she will be elected as a new republican.


192 posted on 11/19/2014 10:13:46 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

As a conservative I do not support the right of any foreign corporation, or crony of any USA politicians to force our American citizens to give up their property rights for a token right of way fee, just so they can profit.

Nor do I support the right of these same foreign corporations to use our country as a right of way to send their oil to Europe or China. But that’s just me and what I strongly believe.

I do not and will never sign on to the official menu of the Republican corporate establishment Party. I maintain the right to my own opinion and beliefs.

With some significant changes such as rewarding landowners with significant ongoing usage fees (instead of one cheap right of way fee) and limits on export of this oil I could support it.


193 posted on 11/19/2014 4:13:03 PM PST by apoliticalone (Politicians work for their own self interest and their puppeteers not average Americans)
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To: All

Gee, no shock here.

BNSF Railway to spend $6 billion on growth in 2015

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bnsf-railway-to-spend-6-billion-on-growth-in-2015-2014-11-20


194 posted on 11/20/2014 5:58:03 AM PST by sleddogs
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To: deport

I can only hope the lasting legacy of Tim Johnson of SD will be his yes vote on Obama Care and his no vote on Keystone XL.

My momma would not approve of my denigrating the handicapped so remaining comments self censored.

This too shall pass.


195 posted on 11/20/2014 8:57:26 AM PST by wita
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To: sleddogs
Gee, no shock here. BNSF Railway to spend $6 billion on growth in 2015

That would be Warren Buffet's railroad. Gee, no crony capitalism going on here between Obama and Buffet now is there?!

196 posted on 11/20/2014 8:58:31 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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