Posted on 11/23/2014 7:14:06 AM PST by nathanbedford
Good post!
But unfortunately, America IMO is under judgement. The constitution was written for a moral people. USA is mystery Babylon.
I do believe that while we are here solutions such as article 5 need to be tried.
We need to seek out like minded Christians for fellowship and support. The mega churches and institutional churches are lukewarm Laodicean churches for the most part.
We also need a plan B for a new exodus; a place for God fearing people to go and start a renewed Western Christian society. I do not believe in the pre-tribulation rapture, and I believe that many of the prophecy scholars have been quietly moving away from this idea.
The US is a big country with a big government; it will not be a pleasant place when the hammer strikes.
The way I remember it was “With hard work and the grace of God....”
Both seem to be in short supply and our own damned fault.
Why, thank you very much.
“If we accept that demographics in national presidential elections are increasingly running against Republicans and even more against conservatives,”
One thing about this that is really upsetting and unsetteling is that the republicans are being compliant with the democrats and except for a few Conservative Republicans are offering no resistance. The republicans are attacking their Conservative Republican base with enthusiasm, venom and vitriol that should be directed at democrats. As my wife a I were discussing our relation to government has become “Them against US”, apparently it is now also democrats, republicans and Big Government against Conservative Republicans, us. After fifty plus years I don’t believe the Republican party has a place for me anymore, after all I’m not a mindless do as I’m told voter, I used to think it was only the democrats that wanted that kind of support.
it's probably 3 times that much.
government /socialism doesn't work. even Lenin and socialist China turned to “state capitalism” : that is still mosty capitalism (privately owned businesses). the economies where most of production is owned by government collapsed rapidly , Cuba, China, cambodia , N korea, n vietnam etc. why do stupid liberals/democrats think government can work? government is unnaccoutable.
I merely say that they (state legislatures/federal senators) will be corrupt in a different way from the national legislators, a way less dangerous than the corruption in those who hold so much power over every aspect of our lives in Washington.
Yes, the republic thrived prior to 1913 when corruption was diffused among the several states.
The 17th concentrated power and corruption in DC.
Today, all power is swirling into the vortex of the executive. As the end of the Roman republic is dated from the day Caesar crossed the Rubicon, the American Republic quietly slipped into despotism last Thursday, 11/20/14.
I predict the next congress in 2015 will be proforma, an illusion, a hologram of an actual assembly of the people and states. Because of this, the conservative base will not show up in 2016, and Granny Warren will have a congress more compliant than a senate of the Roman emperors, whose purpose was to give the patina of law to every imperial proclamation.
That is of course, unless we use the power bequeathed to us by the framers and restore the American federal republic. The window is narrow, two years at most.
Article V NOW!
Slipped away long ago.
The fundamental problem is the misalignment of morality and practicality. In America past before the new deal, it was both moral and practical to work hard and be self sufficient. The price of not doing so was hunger, cold and general misery. Today, of course it is still moral to behave that way. But increasingly, it is no longer practical when there are so many entitlements to be had. So, morality and practicality have diverged.
What will it take for morality and practicality to realign? Short of a religious (moral) revival, I fear an enormous economic collapse will start the realignment. Government will be unable to alleviate the suffering, and only then will a lasting majority of people realize they cannot rely on government. Practicality will then be defined once again as hard work and self sufficiency...but only after much suffering.
The leaders of the Democrat Party and the Democrat voters have a perceived symbiotic relationship. They both believe they have power over the other. If the Republican Party can show that they can provide a MORE beneficial relationship to the Democrat voters, then the Democrat voters will come over to the Republican Party.
Frankly, it’s time to begin to leave the US. First, have investments, bank accounts and bullion in other countries. Second search out places to move before the crash. A lot of people have mentioned Costa Rica. Any thoughts on other countries?
Conservatives would need their own standing army to ensure such a convention is fair.
Yes. My feelings on this Article v convention are mixed. Our options are becoming more limited by the day. We sit on our hands, many of us, because we realize this is not likely to end without a fight. And by fight, ....well...
Nope. Demographics aren’t changing that dramatically. The cycle continues on as it has for over a century. A few weeks ago was the typical 2nd midterm blood bath. 2 years from now will be the typical “screw these guys” changing of which party is in the White House. The amnesty won’t change that, it’s not nearly enough people to overpower the mushy middle. Those are the folks that really decide elections, and most of what the mushy middle thinks is that who ever is in charge this week are idiots.
U.S. Population Projections: 2005-2050
BY JEFFREY S. PASSEL AND D’VERA COHN
Executive Summary
If current trends continue, the population of the United States will rise to 438 million in 2050, from 296 million in 2005, and 82% of the increase will be due to immigrants arriving from 2005 to 2050 and their U.S.-born descendants, according to new projections developed by the Pew Research Center.
Of the 117 million people added to the population during this period due to the effect of new immigration, 67 million will be the immigrants themselves and 50 million will be their U.S.-born children or grandchildren.
Among the other key population projections:
Nearly one in five Americans (19%) will be an immigrant in 2050, compared with one in eight (12%) in 2005. By 2025, the immigrant, or foreign-born, share of the population will surpass the peak during the last great wave of immigration a century ago.
The major role of immigration in national growth builds on the pattern of recent decades, during which immigrants and their U.S.-born children and grandchildren accounted for most population increase. Immigration’s importance increased as the average number of births to U.S.-born women dropped sharply before leveling off.
The Latino population, already the nation’s largest minority group, will triple in size and will account for most of the nation’s population growth from 2005 through 2050. Hispanics will make up 29% of the U.S. population in 2050, compared with 14% in 2005.
Births in the United States will play a growing role in Hispanic and Asian population growth; as a result, a smaller proportion of both groups will be foreign-born in 2050 than is the case now.
The non-Hispanic white population will increase more slowly than other racial and ethnic groups; whites will become a minority (47%) by 2050.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2008/02/11/us-population-projections-2005-2050/
I agree. I don’t believe our founders envisioned career politicians. Nor the gigantic powerful bureaucracies we have today.
It’s a spiritual problem and as John Silber said 20 year ago-—
In a wealthy society it is very hard to maintain spiritual values. The abundant wealth is man made so you worship mans creations and you are in awe of them. When you are poor you are more dependent on God’s creations and interact with them (such as a rural setting)
Also see-— worship of the Golden Calf (obviously)
The racial political relation isn’t as tight as the doom sayers want to think. 10 years ago we were supposed to be looking at a permanent conservative majority, a few years before that the libs were insisting their majority was going to be permanent, now you’re insisting the dems are going to have a permanent majority. Meanwhile out here in reality the country is divided basically in 3rds: 1/3 basically conservative, 1/3 basically liberal, and the mushy middle. And it’s that middle that decides elections, and makes sure there are no permanent majorities.
I will lay out EXACTLY what will happen over the next handful of elections:
2 years from now unless the GOP really screws it up (basically by obsessing on Obama, forget him, he’ll be gone) whoever they nominate will win the White House. With small coattails in Congress (very small owing to how much they already control).
2 years after that, the first mid term. Barring another 2002 botch by the dems the GOP loses a bunch of seats. Again given the numbers they already have expect it to be major.
2 years after that, as much as America loves to loves to undercut the president’s party in midterm they still love to re-elect presidents.
2 years after that, second midterm. GOP bloodbath.
2 years after than the mushy middle will have had their fill of the GOP in the White House and the dem nominee wins.
But then things reset, same pattern as above, just switch the parties, GOP gains in the midterms, dem pres gets re-elected, another 2nd midterm bloodbath, and then the GOP gets the White House back.
The mushy middle decides elections, and the mushy middle grows weary of the guys in charge. There are no permanent majorities. And anybody that thinks otherwise doesn’t pay attention to the plainly obvious highly repetitive cycle of election results.
BTTT/BFL
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