Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

US Entering Dangerous New Era in Religious Hostility
CBN News Washington Sr. Correspondent ^ | Wednesday, December 03, 2014 | Paul Strand

Posted on 12/03/2014 4:10:37 PM PST by robowombat

US Entering Dangerous New Era in Religious Hostility

By Paul Strand CBN News Washington Sr. Correspondent Wednesday, December 03, 2014

WASHINGTON -- A school tells a student that he can't attend because God's the most important thing in his life. A public health official gets fired for sermons he gave in his off-hours as a lay pastor. A congregation is told they may not be able to locate downtown just because - and only because - they're a church.

These are all real examples of cases in the past several months showing your religion can get you in real trouble in today's America.

For the last three years the Liberty Institute and the Family Research Council has published Undeniable: The Survey of Hostility to Religion in America. The legal group says they're seeing cases of discrimination against those of faith rising rapidly.

"The first time we did it, we collected about 600 cases," Jeff Mateer, general counsel of the Texas-based Liberty Institute, told CBN News. "We went from 600 to 1,200. And this year we're up to about 1,600. So, the threats are continuing to increase at a dramatic pace."

Often these threats take place in school settings.

The American Center for Law and Justice is another legal organization fighting for religious rights.

"We've got a student right now at a school in Baltimore for radiological nursing who was denied access to the school - and the school put this in writing - because he said God was the most important thing in his life," ACLJ Executive Director Jordan Sekulow said.

Threats at State, Federal Levels

Sometimes it's the federal government attacking, like in the Hobby Lobby-Obamacare case.

"We have the solicitor-general of the United States actually arguing that by engaging in business, people lose their religious liberty rights," Mateer said of that case.

Then he turned to the Hosanna Tabor vs. EEOC case where the government backed a teacher with some ministerial duties at a church school who was fired by the church.

"We had this administration argue in the U.S. Supreme Court that the federal government should be involved in the hiring and firing of ministers," Mateer stated.

Sometimes these cases involve a state government. In May, the state of Georgia fired public health official Dr. Eric Walsh shortly after hiring him because of sermons Walsh had given during his free time.

Walsh admitted his sermons sometimes do deal with controversial topics.

"Issues around creation, sexual purity, doctrinal issues," Walsh said.

A number of articles in the Georgia press point to gay activists angry over comments Walsh made on homosexuality, sometimes in sermons delivered years ago.

For instance, in his 2006 sermon called "Sex Lies and the Fight for Purity," he quoted scriptures concerning the sexual sinners of Sodom and Gomorrah.

"The scripture in Jude 7 makes clear that 'they gave themselves over to fornication,' which we normally connotate as premarital sex, 'and going after strange flesh,' which if you carry the analogies all the way out would mean homosexuality," Walsh preached in that sermon. "The Bible says that when they did this, God caused them to suffer the vengeance of eternal fire."

After hearing from Walsh's detractors, Georgia officials asked him this May for copies of his sermons.

"So he politely sent them copies of the sermons themselves," said Jeremy Dys, the Liberty Institute senior counsel who's representing Walsh. "They reviewed them and the very next day they fired him."

Walsh told CBN News months later, he's still in shock.

"And kind of blown away at the idea that in the United States you could be a lay pastor and on the weekend deliver messages to congregations and that that could be used against you when you apply for a job or you're offered a job," Walsh said.

"That's not religious liberty in this country," Dys commented. "At the very minimum, I expect religious liberty means we can find sanctuary in our own sanctuary."

A Costly Battle

Sometimes fighting back against such large opponents can take years, like an ACLJ case that began in 2007.

"A college professor at UNC Wilmington - he fought until this year because he was denied promotion," Sekulow said of the case. "He became a Christian - he started out as an atheist and a liberal professor - became a Christian during his years at the college and was denied promotion. He ultimately won in court."

But it took the professor years and although ACLJ battled by his side free-of-charge, the fight still cost him a small fortune.

Sometimes, those discriminated against need to take on their own town, like Pastor Telsa DeBerry and his congregation. That happened after a Holly Springs, Mississippi, city ordinance was used to stop them from forming a downtown church.

"One of our young lawyers brought it to me and said, 'You're not going to believe this,'" Liberty Institute's Mateer recalled. "Small town in Mississippi that has an ordinance that only applies to churches, and it says that churches in order to be in an area of the town have to gain 60 percent approval of the landowners in the area and they have to get the mayor's approval.' And I said 'C'mon, it doesn't say churches.' It does. It says 'churches shall…'"

"I thought it was ludicrous," DeBerry said when recalling first hearing about the ordinance. "Frankly, I thought it was absurd."

"On its face it violates federal law that says you can't discriminate against churches for being a church," Mateer explained.

DeBerry added, "I felt that not only I as a pastor, but all Christians and for that matter all religious institutions would be segregated and alienated from society by this ordinance and would be relegated to second- or third-rung citizens."

But they point out if people will fight back, they will almost always win.

For instance, DeBerry and Liberty lost in their original rounds with Holly Springs and then before a district court judge.

But they then scored a huge victory on appeal when the 5th Circuit Court in New Orleans blasted the anti-church ordinance.

"God had a purpose in this because when we went to the 5th Circuit, we ended up getting a great precedent," Mateer said.

"It's literally going to impact thousands of churches across this country when they're faced with discrimination," he added.

Sekulow said these cases are often solved with just a call or a letter from a group like the ACLJ.

"But there are also times when you've got to be willing to fight in court," he explained. "You know, if you're to threaten a potential legal action, you've got to back that up. Now, we're there for people so they don't have to worry about paying attorneys, but you do have to go through the process."

Not Your Grandfather's Atheists

Sekulow explained that those going after people of faith and the society's religious moorings are more radical than those of the past.

"The goal of the radical groups is to eradicate our heritage, the Judeo-Christian heritage," he said. "They want Washington, D.C., for instance, to be sandblasted: the Bible verses, the religious figures that are represented throughout our nation's capital."

He pointed out, "They file in federal court. They haven't been very successful, but it takes resources. You have to fight back. You know, their only 'wins' are when people don't fight back."

"Usually they pick on smaller places that have budget issues," Sekulow added. "Maybe they don't have a whole legal department. That's when these people get 'wins.' They get 'wins' when no one shows up to fight them."

Mateer agreed: people of faith must sometimes stand and fight.

"The founders envisioned a healthy, vibrant people of faith engaged in society," Mateer said, looking back to those who framed the First Amendment. "And the truth is if we lose our religious freedom, we're going to lose all our freedoms."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aclj; christianity; christianpersecution; culturewar; godlessamerica; homofascism; liberalbigots; obamalegacy; persecution; religiousintolerance; smashthepatriarchy; waronchristianity

1 posted on 12/03/2014 4:10:37 PM PST by robowombat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: robowombat

Yes folks, evil is growing.


2 posted on 12/03/2014 4:12:55 PM PST by vpintheak (Keep calm and Rain Steel!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: robowombat
A school tells a student that he can't attend because God's the most important thing in his life.

I would say God and Mary are the most important "things?" in my life.

3 posted on 12/03/2014 4:16:36 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: robowombat

It’s a dark world out there this Christmas. Anyone else notice fewer Christmas lights this year?


4 posted on 12/03/2014 4:17:27 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: robowombat

So true.


5 posted on 12/03/2014 4:20:17 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: vpintheak

The seed for this was sown back in the days of old-style secular liberalism, but it has gained huge momentum since the New Left generation of the sixties has come into power. They despise Christianity, and are the spiritual heirs of those who killed and imprisoned hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Christians during the days of the 20th Century communist and socialist revolutions.


6 posted on 12/03/2014 4:21:05 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: robowombat

The commie, lib DemocRATS care more about Allah than they do about God. Allah is welcome in the ‘RAT Party and at their conventions. God isn’t. To those commie ‘RATs who love to say that they can’t understand why a Christian would vote Republican, I say, it appears to me that Allah must be a DemocRAT and God must be a Republican. JMO.


7 posted on 12/03/2014 4:23:49 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Remember! When the GOP wins, it means the stupid American voters want bipartisanship.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: robowombat

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

Enemy agents at work in America.


8 posted on 12/03/2014 4:26:03 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: robowombat

Bump


9 posted on 12/03/2014 4:43:06 PM PST by lowbridge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: robowombat

BFL


10 posted on 12/03/2014 4:46:20 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yldstrk
Not here. Northeast Ohio was ablaze by Sunday night.
11 posted on 12/03/2014 4:46:47 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: vpintheak

Jesus said the violence of the last days would be unprecedented, and look at the world we live in....


12 posted on 12/03/2014 5:24:23 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: robowombat

I wish they would cite information of the 600, 1200, 1800 cases. All I hear from my left leaning friends is that I am full of hooey when I say it’s getting worse for Christians.


13 posted on 12/03/2014 5:26:27 PM PST by SengirV
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: robowombat

From the article:

“....After hearing from Walsh’s detractors,Georgia officials asked him this May for copies of his sermons.

“So he politely sent them copies of the sermons themselves,” said Jeremy Dys,the Liberty Institute senior counsel who’s representing Walsh. “They reviewed them and the very next day they fired him.” ....”

Question:

1) why did he comply and send his bosses the copies?

2)what would have been the result if he hadn’t sent them?

3)were there any rules governing his after hours activities?

If the bosses had nothing to get him on per 3), then the outcome might have been different.


14 posted on 12/03/2014 5:37:22 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yldstrk

Give it a little more time. This weekend.


15 posted on 12/03/2014 5:41:32 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer

No, God is a Conservative.


16 posted on 12/03/2014 6:17:17 PM PST by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: hinckley buzzard

Yes, in north central Ohio as well. It’s good to see people still have hope.


17 posted on 12/03/2014 6:18:30 PM PST by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: robowombat

My wife and I just finished our morning walk. We used a local High School as the track and noticed several nice things as we looked into some of the areas that were lit up. Couple Christmas trees in smaller offices and a 12 footer in the main lobby. American flag on the counter in the main entrance (looks like a security check point and the county has provided armed officers as security). S. MS makes me proud as I know a number of teachers who aren’t shy about their Christianity or their support for the Country and the 2nd Amendment. Compared to much of the nation, we are a Constitutional/Christian breath of fresh air.


18 posted on 12/04/2014 5:12:37 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: robowombat
If only all this time, effort, and resources could have been collectively pooled to deal with the real religious war that we need to be fighting..........

Extracting Islam from the United States

19 posted on 12/04/2014 5:16:39 AM PST by catfish1957 (Everything I needed to know about Islam was written on 11 Sep 2001)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson