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To: TheBigJ

The initial technique used to bring down Garner was not a chokehold. Pantaleo explained to the grand jury that Garner drove him into a large glass window that buckled, which can be seen in the video, and Pantaleo feared that he would go through the window. That’s when Pantaleo’s left arm got around Garner’s neck. Even so, there is no evidence of choking. Garner appeared to maintain consciousness until well after he was on the ground. He could speak which means he could breathe, and the coroner found no evidence of choking such as a damaged trachea or a fractured hyoid bone.


90 posted on 12/05/2014 2:04:06 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

It’s a chokehold on the ground. Nuff said. One can speak in a chokehold. Again, this keeps getting repeated about how one can’t speak, flatly laughable and untrue. It depends on the pressure, which will vary with two bodies moving. If it’s tight enough and secure, speaking would be difficult, but slightly less, one can speak.

And no mention of findings of hemorrhaging in neck? Must be that invisible grand piano that fell from the sky.

So again, if we were truthful without an agenda it’s the things not said here. 5 guys compressing neck and chest cause a death.


91 posted on 12/05/2014 2:10:57 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: Moonman62

“The perp made me wrap my arm around his neck and squeeze.”


98 posted on 12/05/2014 3:24:59 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ('The HERO of the (0bamacare) story is Mitt Romney' - "Stupid" Jonathan Gruber)
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To: Moonman62

“Pantaleo’s left arm got around Garner’s neck”

Just an accidental placement of Pantaleo’s left arm. No actual intent to choke. Coulda been Pantaleo’s right leg around Garner’s left pinkie just as easily. Just happened to have “got around Garner’s neck” with no actual effort by Pantaleo.

Or did you really mean “Pantaleo grabbed Garner by the neck and squeezed”?

Are you going with the accidental or intentional chokehold?


99 posted on 12/05/2014 3:28:38 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ('The HERO of the (0bamacare) story is Mitt Romney' - "Stupid" Jonathan Gruber)
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