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Victor Davis Hanson: A large war is looming
The Fresno Bee ^ | December 6, 2014 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 12/07/2014 4:34:41 PM PST by daisy12

The world is changing and becoming even more dangerous — in a way we’ve seen before.

In the decade before World War I, the near-100-year European peace that had followed the fall of Napoleon was taken for granted. Yet it abruptly imploded in 1914. Prior little wars in the Balkans had seemed to predict a much larger one on the horizon — and were ignored.

The exhausted Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman empires were spent forces unable to control nationalist movements in their provinces. The British Empire was fading. Imperial Germany was rising. Czarist Russia was beset with revolutionary rebellion. As power shifted, decline for some nations seemed like opportunity for others.

The same was true in 1939. The tragedy of the Versailles Treaty of 1919 was not that it had been too harsh. In fact, it was far milder than the terms Germany had imposed on a defeated Russia in 1918 or the requirements it had planned for France in 1914.

Instead, Versailles combined the worst of both worlds: harsh language without any means of enforcement.

The subsequent appeasement of Britain and France, the isolationism of the United States, and the collaboration of the Soviet Union with Nazi Germany green-lighted Hitler’s aggression — and another world war.

We are entering a similarly dangerous interlude. Collapsing oil prices — a good thing for most of the world — will make troublemakers like oil-exporting Iran and Russia take even more risks.

Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/12/06/4273844/victor-davis-hanson-a-large-war.html?sp=/99/274/#storylink=cpy

(Excerpt) Read more at fresnobee.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; france; germany; iran; lebanon; nato; norway; russia; unitedkingdom; vdh; victordavishanson; wwiii
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
"In addition, VDH just suffered the sudden loss of an adult daughter. Attacking him, on such scant evidence, seems out of line."

Well said, Hetty.

Unfortunately, there seem to be Neanderthals who are given free reign 'round these parts.

Why? Who knows.

101 posted on 12/07/2014 6:24:58 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: All
I see all the derogatory barbs being made here in this thread at humblegunner, and I can see no reason for it. He had made a valid point and asked a valid question... which was answered... yet all you pounce on him like he doesn't belong here.

Shame on you all.

102 posted on 12/07/2014 6:25:03 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: humblegunner

Got Churchill?


103 posted on 12/07/2014 6:31:33 PM PST by cornelis
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To: Rodamala

Shame on you all.


You’re joking.


104 posted on 12/07/2014 6:33:50 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Rodamala
I see all the derogatory barbs being made here in this thread at humblegunner, and I can see no reason for it.

"Does this Hanson guy actually title his stuff with his own name? What an arrogant piece of crap he must be."

humblegunner called VDH a "arrogant piece of crap".

Do you agree with that characterization of him (VDH),Rodamala?

105 posted on 12/07/2014 6:34:00 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Rodamala

No, he did not make a valid point. It was a point in ignorance of common newpaper editorial page style coupled with pointed disregard of a highly thought of conservative author.

BTW, here’s how VDH’s article is titled on his home publication website National Review

War Clouds on the Horizon?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/393896/war-clouds-horizon-victor-davis-hanson


106 posted on 12/07/2014 6:34:36 PM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Pooty-Poot has been getting his ass handed to him with the cratering crude and sanctions over his invasion and occupation of Ukrainian territory; he can’t pull the plug on his aggression, but he can’t afford it either”

That’s a common cause of war: lacking sufficient funds, kill creditors and confiscate wealth on a large scale. Usually doesn’t work out very well for most involved, but no other path seems viable.


107 posted on 12/07/2014 6:34:48 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Rodamala
I see all the derogatory barbs being made here in this thread at humblegunner, and I can see no reason for it. He had made a valid point and asked a valid question... which was answered... yet all you pounce on him like he doesn't belong here.

1. The point wasn't valid. Victor Davis Hanson doesn't title his own columns...the local editor does.

2. For a man of his intellect, Victor Davis Hanson is probably the most down-to-earth people you could find, without a scintilla of arrogance. This is something that is well known by all, of course, with the apparent exception of humblegunner, who for some reason thinks that columnists are responsible for the headlines that appear over their columns.

3. Despite his having been supplied the facts, this humblegunner guy elected to persist in his own rank ignorance, for reasons he has yet to adequately explain. While this mode of behavior doesn't serve to advance the discussion in any meaningful way, I have to admit it does have its amusing element, because I love to see people humiliate themselves inadvertently.

























Hey...I don't call 'em like I see 'em.



















I call 'em the way they are.
108 posted on 12/07/2014 6:39:04 PM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: daisy12

Where's humblegunner when you need him?

109 posted on 12/07/2014 6:39:10 PM PST by cornelis
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To: reasonisfaith

“Somebody needs to learn you a lesson boy.”

Pappy taught me the goal of education is to cure ignorance with stupidity is something short of hopeless. “Stupid” was very much a forbidden word to use in characterizing someone. Also told me the best one can do in response to some people is IGNORE THEM.
All that said, must say it’s amusing to agitate them...let’m show their a**! And VDH is always a worthwhile read.


110 posted on 12/07/2014 6:46:16 PM PST by Huaynero
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To: ctdonath2

good point: WWII killed the Great Depression


111 posted on 12/07/2014 6:49:52 PM PST by SisterK
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To: Iron Munro

>The western democratic nations don’t have leadership with any guts today.<

.
How can one have leadership today when one is expected to have a politically correct attitude?


112 posted on 12/07/2014 6:55:15 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: SisterK

Says who?


113 posted on 12/07/2014 6:58:11 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: humblegunner

Gawd A’mighty, Humble. Get off it already.


114 posted on 12/07/2014 6:59:18 PM PST by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: Huaynero

“Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge,
But he who hates correction is stupid.” Proverbs 12:1

NKJV


115 posted on 12/07/2014 6:59:34 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: DuncanWaring

The socialist.


116 posted on 12/07/2014 6:59:38 PM PST by cornelis
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To: jttpwalsh

They fall for it every time.


117 posted on 12/07/2014 7:00:29 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

I won’t make that mistake, again! Thanks :)


118 posted on 12/07/2014 7:05:48 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: cornelis; DuncanWaring

I am not a socialist. Nor do I advocate war to solve economic problems....Just that it has been observed that WWII kicked US industry in the pants.
But.
Europe might have a different take on the situation.


119 posted on 12/07/2014 7:06:12 PM PST by SisterK (disclaimer: I was not born yet and am a product of public schooling)
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To: ctdonath2
That’s a common cause of war: lacking sufficient funds, kill creditors and confiscate wealth on a large scale. Usually doesn’t work out very well for most involved, but no other path seems viable.

The oldest motivator for war- besides women (kidding! kidding!) is greed. "I don't have what he has. I want what he has. He won't give me what he has. I'm going to take what he has for my own and crush his ability to take it back."

Lather, rinse, repeat.

120 posted on 12/07/2014 7:07:36 PM PST by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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