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Exclusive: House GOP Leaders Trick 216 House Republicans into Accidentally Supporting Obama's
breitbart ^ | 12/7/14 | Matthew Boyle

Posted on 12/07/2014 9:03:53 PM PST by Nachum

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To: Seaplaner

I certainly agree with that - I don’t even go there any more.


21 posted on 12/08/2014 1:59:02 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Waryone

I’ve read and heard about the ‘trickery’ and how it strengthens Obama’s EO, but exactly how? I can’t seem to find the specifics. Are there any? Or is this just someone’s assessment of something they haven’t (cannot) read?


22 posted on 12/08/2014 2:00:50 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Nachum

Look, let’s focus here.
The Republicans want amnesty as much ad the Democrats. They’re all looking for the same thing. The Democrats want voters and the Republicans want cheap labor for their corporate buddies.
Call your representative and complain.


23 posted on 12/08/2014 2:15:37 AM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: Nachum

>> There is adblock software that is free. Works great

It does indeed, but when you adequately convey the spirit of the article, there’s no need to suffer the consequences of off-site material.

Remember, we FRamily for what’s here, not somewhere else on the Interwebs....


24 posted on 12/08/2014 2:20:59 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

“””Remember, we FRamily for what’s here, not somewhere else on the Interwebs....”””

There really is nothing “here”, except for a few vanities and FReeper stories. The rest actually IS from the interwebs.


25 posted on 12/08/2014 4:30:18 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: lucky american

Can someone explain to me why any employer would want undereducated/uneducated peasants as employees? Does America still have that many jobs that only require a strong back and repetitive labor? I am seriously asking this question because I don’t see those jobs in the numbers being brought in.

I have been told by managers in IT that they dread the Indian programmers. Their work product is described as unnecessarily convoluted and they require much more supervision and revision. One commented he would hire anyone who didn’t have to be reminded to change the toner in the copy machine and who could actually do that, if such an employee were actually available.

I think perhaps the real power play here is the sending of monies to the South/Central American nations supplying these migrants. I know the Chamber of Commerce has played hardball to acquire these so-called workers and it truly baffles me. In the past, I have had employees and when I could no longer afford them I discovered that I got more done correctly in a shorter time without them. Nor did I miss the time and expense of filing their income/FICA-FUDA forms.

None of this makes sense to me. Yes, I understand that the donks think they are acquiring a compliant voter pool. How long do they think these new *citizens* are going to compliantly vote for old whites? As soon as they understand our system and how to play it, they are going to organize and elect their own. The present elite may think they have enough money to cushion them personally against that eventuality, but the political tiers just below the top must have the brains to understand the risk to their own careers.


26 posted on 12/08/2014 4:46:55 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Gaffer; Seaplaner

I run Win-7 Pro x64, and use a CPU Meter Gadget, among a few others, and it explodes into frenzied, pin-the-needle activity for all 4 CPUs, while at Breitbart’s site. That sustained activity can’t be good for the hardware, so I don’t visit anymore either.


27 posted on 12/08/2014 4:56:33 AM PST by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: Nachum

Well, that should make for 216 votes against noBoehner for SOH.


28 posted on 12/08/2014 5:08:24 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Gaffer; Liz

In the article Gohmert said that the secret amendment was added after the members read the one and a half page bill. Then the leadership kept this new amendment from the members, not allowing them to read it.

http://amendments-rules.house.gov/amendments/YOHO_087_xml122141859175917.pdf

From the article:
Gohmert walked Breitbart News through the text of Section Three of the new bill line by line, explaining how each word fits into the legal patchwork of immigration law before getting to the key additions that were made without notifying many of the members who voted for it.

“They added another section called ‘exceptions.’ And the exceptions part says this ‘shall apply except’ and then there’s three parts,” Gohmert said while reading the actual text of the bill on the phone with Breitbart News.

The third one is “for humanitarian purposes where the aliens are at imminent risk of serious bodily harm or death.” That’s what they added. Well, this president has been arguing for months that the things he’s doing is because these people are at imminent risk of serious bodily harm and that’s why he’s doing them. So actually by adding this exception it gives the president for the first time a solid statutory basis to argue that providing those work permits is now legal.

Gohmert said that this addition gives President Obama a foot in the door for a legal argument justifying executive amnesty.

“By adding that exception to the original bill, we would now give the president the statutory authority to do what he’s doing to issue these work permits,” Gohmert said. “I know that this language is in there for people claiming asylum and for refugee status, but not ever for providing work permits. But by adding this to this bill that’s supposed to claim his effort to provide work permits is illegal, unconstitutional, and inappropriate, the exception that was added gives him a statutory basis for arguing his work permits are now statutorily allowed.”


29 posted on 12/08/2014 6:02:38 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Gaffer

As I see it, the exception is the rule. The new part of the bill is what they did not want anyone to see. The part they had not released inserts wording that grants an exception to the president so that he can ignore the fact that he is over reaching his powers if there are humanitarian reasons to do so.

Congress is abdicating their authority and giving their powers to the president, in other words the House has said it’s alright for the president to go beyond his Constitutional powers, when he feels there is humanitarian need.

This is the exact situation we have now with thousands of “youths” being allowed into our country because they are poor and there are drugs and crime in the countries where they live. There president never had that Constitutional authority before. The passage of this bill gives it to him.

This is precisely what that weasel Pete Sessions of Texas wanted when he started tinkering with things. I need to see some Texas politicians call that traitor out soon. He needs to be branded with his treason so no one ever forgets.

If you still have a problem understanding what is really going on, read the whole article again.


30 posted on 12/08/2014 6:21:48 AM PST by Waryone
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To: Waryone

Legislation by itself does not automatically grant Constitutionality.


31 posted on 12/08/2014 6:53:12 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: sheana
They did not get played.

House GOP Leaders Trick Fraudulently Induce 216 House Republicans into Accidentally Inadvertently Supporting Obama's Executive Amnesty.

You may be correct, it does seem far worse.

32 posted on 12/08/2014 8:13:09 AM PST by frog in a pot (We are all in the same pot.)
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To: Gaffer

The laws today that are unconstitutional but in effect are too numerous to count. If you can’t get a court to rule it’s unconstitutional, for all intents and purposes, it is constitutional and that is precisely how they will use it.


33 posted on 12/08/2014 8:15:02 AM PST by Waryone
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To: Waryone

I don’t disagree with what you say. Today’s events are the result of lawlessness and cowardice of the opposition. It does not, however, negate the fact that the actions are not Constitutional on their face simply because they are the result of enacted legislation.

Eventually, common sense and decency will prevail. Or, we all lose and become a third world shithole.


34 posted on 12/08/2014 8:17:41 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Seaplaner

Agree. Ditch the popups.


35 posted on 12/08/2014 8:17:45 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Kennard

What makes you think Reid will not let this bill be voted on?


36 posted on 12/08/2014 8:21:00 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Gaffer

It gives a legal basis for Obola to do whatever he wants. Like the health provision in Roe. Open door.


37 posted on 12/08/2014 8:24:04 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Yes, he can proceed on that basis, but ultimately it is not a Constitutional ruling.


38 posted on 12/08/2014 8:28:29 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

But then it has to go to court. That takes time and time is of the essence here, as the document cards are already being prepared. And as I have said elsewhere here, once the illegals have jobs, apartments, and bank accounts, it really would be inhuman to deport them. Now is the time to stop this, not when the legal groups get around to it and it wends its slow way through the court system.

It occurred to me that it is no anomaly that this was rushed through—while we still have a lame-duck Dem Senate.


39 posted on 12/08/2014 8:35:12 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

You really don’t have an argument from me here. I am merely commenting on the specifics of legislated laws and whether they are actually Constitutionally valid or not.

Given our Supreme Court, our President and our spineless/ball-less RINO majority thus far, I’d be perfectly content with insurrection and open revolt.


40 posted on 12/08/2014 8:37:59 AM PST by Gaffer
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