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Unloved Warthog lives to fight another day
Washington Examiner ^ | 12/8/2014 | Charles Hoskinson

Posted on 12/09/2014 9:00:06 AM PST by bkopto

The A-10 fighter jet, designed to kill Soviet tanks in Europe, made its reputation instead in America's Middle East wars. Now it's back in the region while its advocates fight off the Air Force's attempts to kill it.

A-10s from the Indiana National Guard arrived from Afghanistan last month at an air base in southwest Asia, where they will be used for missions against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, Air Force officials said.

The plane, affectionately nicknamed the Warthog, is slow and ugly compared with the Air Force's other fighter jets, especially the stealthy, supersonic F-35 that is scheduled to replace it. But it's also heavily armed and armored, making it a deadly weapon in close-in combat against enemy ground forces and a welcome sight for friendly troops.

The Air Force says the A-10 is too old and not versatile enough to keep flying in a tight budget environment. Getting rid of the A-10 would save $4.2 billion over five years, the best value with the least loss of aircraft, Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welch told the House Armed Services Committee in March.

But Senate and House negotiators agreed Dec. 2 to keep it flying at least through the end of fiscal 2015, forbidding the Air Force from taking it out of service.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: a10; aerospace; airforce; warthog
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To: Kenny Bunk

**(Would you believe, many flown by non-commissioned officers? Disgusting.)**

Are you sure?
I think you are confusing helicopters with UAVs.

Most Army Helicopters are flown by Warrant Officers.


61 posted on 12/09/2014 6:48:17 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: cpdiii

For your information, the A-10 at Ft. Hood is displayed in front of the 712th ASOC, right next door to the 11th ASOS and the 9th ASOS. All US Air Force units.


62 posted on 12/09/2014 7:24:36 PM PST by TXYooper
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To: PROCON

The A-10 would be a perfect addition to Army Aviation. I could see a good spot for “Marines” on the A-10 as well.


63 posted on 12/09/2014 7:28:55 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: pfflier
The "A" designates it as and " Attack aircraft. If it was a fighter aircraft, it would be designated with an F eg F-15, F-22.

So why is there an "F" in front of the "35"?
64 posted on 12/10/2014 12:27:55 AM PST by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: taxcontrol

I was thinking the fixed investments required. New test stands, a lot more hangars and maintenance FACILITIES. Entire new maintenance SCHOOLS

Personnel are relatively easy and cheap, compared to logistics and facilities. . .


65 posted on 12/10/2014 1:58:20 AM PST by Salgak (Peace through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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To: MHalblaub
So why is there an "F" in front of the "35"?

To make it more like the F-117?

66 posted on 12/10/2014 4:57:39 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Exactly. I was talking to a AF full bull that like us gunts did not understand why the AF was not using them in Afghanistan. (we were both supporting OEF in country)
67 posted on 12/10/2014 7:02:25 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Held my nose to vote.)
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To: MHalblaub
I don't designate 'em I just explain the designations.

If you recall the F-22 went through an iteration where it was an F/A-22 but the fighter mafia fixed that.

68 posted on 12/10/2014 8:51:50 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Gamecock
Warrant Officers.

A Warrant Officer is not a commissioned officer. Neither is he an enlisted man. They are "neither flesh,nor fowl, nor good red meat." Manny chopper jocks are warrant officers. The USAF and the NAVY believe that in order to operate a flying machine, one ought to be commissioned, i.e., "an officer and a gentleman."

69 posted on 12/10/2014 12:44:15 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: hattend
Not a problem. IIRC, early XJ6 Jags had a fuel cooler. I'll forward the Lucas Part Number to the USAF immendiately.

xks.com/i-7081382-co-37497-discontinued-to-fuel-cooler-late-xj6-s1-ac

70 posted on 12/10/2014 12:50:07 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

True.

But when you say non-commissioned officer it implies Corporals and Sergeants, not Warrants.

Like my dad used to say, you only have to salute a Warrant once a day.

Like others say, a Warrant is an NCO with an O-Club membership.

And that takes me to my favorite joke, what are the 5 most dangerous things you can hear in the Army?

1. A private who says “This is the way we did it in Basic.”
2. A Sergeant who says “Trust me on this on Sir.”
3. A LT who says “Well based on my experience....”
4. A Captain who says “Hey! I have a great idea!”
And
5. A Warrant who says “HEY! Watch what happens when I do this!”


71 posted on 12/10/2014 1:06:00 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
one ought to be commissioned, i.e., "an officer and a gentleman.

And if not both, at least the former.

72 posted on 12/10/2014 7:19:52 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

Stop bringing up John McAnus!


73 posted on 12/10/2014 7:59:55 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: SkyPilot

bttt


74 posted on 12/10/2014 10:37:11 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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To: pfflier

I loved the A-4. Had a neighbor, a Navy pilot, who flew it, and wanted to do so myself after the AD was retired. Not to be; wound up in a helicopter, and never looked back.


75 posted on 12/13/2014 11:16:53 AM PST by DPMD
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To: DPMD

I couldn’t believe the dimuitive size of the cockpit. You don’t get into an A-4, you put it on. Makes the F-16 office seem huge


76 posted on 12/14/2014 3:29:54 PM PST by pfflier
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