Posted on 12/09/2014 9:59:00 AM PST by DoodleDawg
I am talking about this and all the other sensationalized stories.
The 12yo looked threatening, even if it was a tragic mistake (which we don’t know exactly what happened, but surely all the boy had to do was drop the “weapon” or speak affirmatively to the LEs).
So did the Hispanic kid in CA, although it sounds like he was more innocent and maybe didn’t hear.
Anyway, pointing out the moral problems in these hyped stories does not mean one likes police brutality. I think there is some more problem than used to be. But not necessarily that the police are meaner. Maybe that stupid “shoot to kill” needs to go. If they just shot them in the legs, alot of this would go away.
I like your reply. DId not read all this thread but like your points.
Whenever someone talks about police brutality (which I believe exists, but maybe not quite the epidemic made out to be), I think of VA Tech. Cops wringing their hands as much as any of the other wimpy leftists out there, what do we do? What do we do? If we storm it, someone will die! Never mind the 30 that DID die by not doing anything.
Everything has gone downhill since the ‘60s - alot of the nice-nice (with thugs) started and snowballed. Yes, it’s done alot of good!
Again, there is video of the incident - Link. The police car comes to a stop at about the 1:33 mark and the boy is shot on the ground less than three seconds later. So you tell me. How does he drop his "weapon" or speak affirmatively to the police in less than three seconds? How does the police officer assess the situation and try to find a peaceful solution in less than three seconds? This was not a tragic mistake. This was sloppy, tragic, trigger happy police work from a moron who should not have been a police officer in the first place.
Never saw it.
That does look really egregious. The video is fudgy, but it does seem they just drive up and shoot him as soon as they open the door.
I wonder why this doesn’t get more play? Meanwhile, blatant thugs like Brown get all the rioting for them.
Anyway, the main point is not to get sidetracked on one incident. There is a problem, but it is not epidemic, I do not think. Having some bad things happen does not make evidence of a huge problem.
I know what you mean. I can think of half a dozen people who died at the hands of police under circumstances far more suspcious than Brown's death was. I think it was a case of the Sharpton's jumping on the bandwagon and canonizing him too quickly. The first stories about unarmed and hands up and still shot down attracted them. By the time they realized that 90% of it was BS they had too much invested in Ferguson to drop it. In the mean time they ignored other officer related shootings to concentrate on it.
“Really? You think “the law” was expected to just hold back all the time back a century ago?”
You’re find with cops being quick to kill? Good for you. Maybe you’ll get close experience of it. News flash, cops make mistakes in the street, assuming something is wrong when it isn’t. So maybe street justice isn’t such a good idea.
I was just seeing a news article about a NYC cop killed by other cops, because he was out of uniform and in a conflict with a car thief and they mistook him for the criminal. Of course this ‘mistake’ they care about. Not so much if it is one of use, like in that stairwell shooting.
Mistakes happen. But mistakes have limits, even ‘back in the day’. You think they wouldn’t have dealt with an out of control violent cop ‘back in the day’ in a more ‘street justice’ manner?
“Difference likely was there was much more “judgement” that someone protecting their property (not just “life-threatening moments”) was perfectly in the right.”
There is a big difference between on the street, and in your home.
“I don’t think it is racially motivated. You had that black cop shoot that white kid who answered the door with a Wii controller in his hand. That black cop shot that unarmed white guy in Salt Lake City not too long ago. I think it is a screening and training issue.”
There is also the issue of lack of discipline for mistakes. When cops watched the cops in the Dorner hunt shoot at three innocent people and walk, among many other incidents, they DID learn something. They learned they aren’t held to reasonable standards. They learned they can screw up and walk. Think that doesn’t affect their attitudes toward mistakes?
“There are a percentage of cops out there, a small percentage but a troubling one nevertheless, who flat out should not be cops.”
The percentage of the truly bad apples is low, midgrade bad apples is probably a lot higher. But the percentage of cops willing to accept those bad apples is near 100%.
I’ve never judged LE so much for their bad apples, so much as for their attitudes regarding their bad apples.
“First, consider the source.”
Indeed. Reuters is an anti-Israeli garbage can of lies, and the last ditch effort of Britain’s dying fascist oligarchy to keep alive Goebbel’s Nazi propaganda ministry.
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