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Oil is Getting Crushed
Business Insider ^ | 10 December 2014 | Stefano Pozzebon and Myles Udland

Posted on 12/10/2014 9:15:08 AM PST by Chad_the_Impaler

On Wednesday, Brent crude broke $64 a barrel while WTI crude broke $61 for the first time since 2009.

Both benchmark oil indexes were down more than 4%.

Brent got as low as $63.72. WTI got as low as $60.55.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/oil-prices-drop-december-10-2014-12#ixzz3LW4F7cMt

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: oil; oilprice; opec
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To: montag813
CL must be one hell of a fun trade. You could make 100k in 2 days on just a 20k account

Can you explain what you are talking about? The only CL I know is Colgate Palmolive. I assume you are referring to some kind of oil derivative, etf or option. What strategies are you referring to that would earn that kind of return?

41 posted on 12/10/2014 12:45:00 PM PST by Defiant (How does a President reverse the actions of a dictator?)
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To: Chad_the_Impaler; Maelstorm; ckilmer; thackney

WTI still a little under $61 at the time of this comment. Thackney’s been educating us with some good information. Maybe we’ll learn even more, if the drivers of the price trend continue.


42 posted on 12/10/2014 12:50:23 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: kaila; Just Lori; Libertina; Publius; PROCON; Lexinom; horatio; freebird5850; Horatio Gates; ...
"His proposal will never pass, too much dominance of Republicans in the Legislature."

WA Ping

While that is essentially true as far as what we see there is always the hidden moves that are continuing to erode our rights and property. We have been irrevocably harmed by Chris Gregoire's executive orders giving wide ranging powers to the department of ecology. The worst of what that agency is working on in their hidden conference rooms hasn't even begun to surface yet.

43 posted on 12/10/2014 1:07:31 PM PST by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: Baynative

You’ll be lucky to be able to catch and eat snowflakes as they fall...........


44 posted on 12/10/2014 1:17:20 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ripley

“Instead, the oil market is seen as having been distorted by
substantial and volatile flows of financial investments
in deregulated or poorly regulated crude oil derivatives instruments”


45 posted on 12/10/2014 1:49:24 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Defiant

CL is the symbol for crude oil futures


46 posted on 12/10/2014 2:58:36 PM PST by montag813
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To: Paladin2

“Instead, the oil market is seen as having been distorted by substantial and volatile flows of financial investmants in deregulated or poorly regulated crude oil derivatives instruments”

That sounds like the place where skullduggery might happen and information is the priviledge of a connected few.

IMHO


47 posted on 12/10/2014 3:42:10 PM PST by ripley
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To: umgud

How does anyone afford to go anywhere in California? Every time I have been there the freeways are jam packed and I am sitting in stalled traffic for veery long amounts of time. It would seem you’d burn a tank of gas every few days just trying to get to work and back.


48 posted on 12/10/2014 3:46:19 PM PST by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: montag813
CL must be one hell of a fun trade. You could make 100k in 2 days on just a 20k account

As someone who trades CL every day that looks quite easy looking at the chart in retrospect. We trade from the hard right edge only in real-time.

Not saying it's not possible, it's just different in real-time with real $.

49 posted on 12/10/2014 4:00:44 PM PST by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: riri

At 7mph you get pretty good mileage.


50 posted on 12/10/2014 4:08:04 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Prov1322

LOL. Everybody’s got 20/20 vision looking back.


51 posted on 12/10/2014 4:11:02 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Starboard

I’m on a foundation board. We were talking about this in a board meeting, and the folks who run the fund have a industry leading Islamic fund.

Here’s the deal:

1. Has nothing to do with NorthAm fracking.
2. Has everything to do with Iran.
3. There are two axis forming around Sunni v. Shiite in the ME

Saudi/Egypt/Jordan/Israel v Russia/Syria/Iran

Iraq is so hosed they don’t matter.

Then you have the Kurds, who everyone Muslim seems to be afraid of.

SA is artificially dragging down the price of crude to starve out Russia/Iran.

What nobody is talking about right now are:

1. Russia’s military is in pretty bad shape.
2. The Ruble is toast. Predicted to end the year at 67 to the dollar. It’s at 54, and the year isn’t over.

We were 71% stock/ 29% bonds. We voted to go to 50% stock /29% bonds / remainder in cash.


52 posted on 12/10/2014 4:20:30 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Prov1322
As someone who trades CL every day that looks quite easy looking at the chart in retrospect. We trade from the hard right edge only in real-time.

I know. I used to trade a lot of futures. Poor luck with YM/ES, outstanding luck with CL and EUR.

53 posted on 12/10/2014 4:33:50 PM PST by montag813
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To: F15Eagle

Have not seen that yet here in NE OK


54 posted on 12/10/2014 4:36:25 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Dutch Boy

No Sh@#$T


55 posted on 12/10/2014 4:37:48 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: umgud

LOL

of course when you’re sitting (which is a high percentage of their cycle), you get zero mpg, unless you have the engine shutoff feature.

Then you do maintenance like UPS where you replace the starter at every oil change....


56 posted on 12/10/2014 4:39:11 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: umgud

No, gas powered cars tend to get the best mileage once they get into high gear and move engine operation to the lower BSFC operating region near the torque peak.


58 posted on 12/10/2014 5:09:07 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: nascarnation
"UPS where you replace the starter at every oil change."

How long do the batteries last?

59 posted on 12/10/2014 5:11:10 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: nascarnation

Starter motors could be built with enhanced bearings, gear engagement systems and become brushless....


60 posted on 12/10/2014 5:12:38 PM PST by Paladin2
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