Did you happen to listen to Rep Bachman last night? She absolutely said that Boehner had a backroom deal with Obama to betray our side. She even gave the date when Boehner met with Obama.
Then Louis Gohmert says the same thing. Gohmert said ON PUBLIC TV LAST NIGHT that Boehner is a member of the other side.
Jeepers...
Oh, how quickly some of us FReepers are willing to reach "instant conclusions" about developing events! At this point, pretty much on the basis of "gossip."
Consider what you have said here, dear brother xzins. You allege that Speaker Boehner willfully engaged in collusion, conspiracy with Obama in a "background deal to betray our side." That side presumably being the cause of conservatism — social, economic, and constitutional.
If I may, I would like to volunteer for the role of devil's advocate here, "devil's advocate" defined as follows:
In common parlance, a devil's advocate is someone who, given a certain argument, takes a position they do not necessarily agree with (or simply an alternative position from the accepted norm), for the sake of debate or to explore the thought further. In taking this position, the individual taking on the devil's advocate role seeks to engage others in an argumentative discussion process. The purpose of such a process is typically to test the quality of the original argument and identify weaknesses in its structure, and to use such information to either improve or abandon the original, opposing position. It can also refer to someone who takes a stance that is seen as unpopular or unconventional, but is actually another way of arguing a much more conventional stance. The background of this word comes from an official position within the Catholic Church, in which a canon lawyer called the Devil's Advocate, also known as the Promoter of Faith, "argued against the canonization (sainthood) of a candidate in order to uncover any character flaws or misrepresentation evidence favoring canonization."As DA, some thoughts:
(1) Your characterization of Boehner is that he is a man who is both stupid and unprincipled. Not to mention that, by seemingly working with a lawless president, is himself an avid accessory to the promulgation of Evil in American society.
(2) The fact that he is a master of the institutional history, procedures and practice of the U.S. Congress is counted against him: the supposition being that he is manipulating the rules for his own self-aggrandisement, or the aggrandisement of "his" Party that represents nothing but advancing its own political welfare and interests (at great taxpayer expense, of course).
Jeepers, that seems to be quite a leap — a leap encouraged by such political players as Ted Cruz, who seemingly demands "instant redress" for public wrongs — such as Obamacare and Executive Orders relating to immigration. In short, I gather Ted Cruz thinks that what could have been accomplished in less than three weeks absolutely cannot wait until the next Congress is seated — when it would have definite positive strength in terms of sheer numbers as compared with the situation right now.
Don't get me wrong; I find Ted Cruz strongly attractive in his policy analyses and prescriptions. I just find him still "wet behind the ears." He is a political neophyte who has not yet "won his spurs," who has a whole lot left to learn. That is, he needs seasoning before I could regard him as a serious candidate for my vote in the 2016 presidential election. (I could say the same about Rand Paul.)
(3) The thought has occurred to me that Boehner and Obama may be involved in a chess game here. Were that the case, I'd allow that Boehner may be two or three moves ahead of his opponent. Time will tell.
In short, this Devil's Advocate is not willing to throw Boehner under the proverbial bus just yet. Moreoever, I'm glad for a three-week reprise over the Christmas season not to have to think about these things, just now.
We'll know a whole lot more about how matters proceed, beginning with the seating of the next Congress, in January.
One thing I do know, and know that Boehner also knows it, is that any positive law enacted by Congress absolutely trumps any previously enacted Executive Order, rendering it completely Null and Void.
The trick will be to maneuver Obama into vetoing such positive law nullifying his excrescences and usurpations as ersatz POTUS. That would be great fun!!!
So, stay tuned! Be patient!!! Pray often!!!
Thank you so very much for sharing your thoughts, dear brother in Christ!
“Did you happen to listen to Rep Bachman last night? She absolutely said that Boehner had a backroom deal with Obama to betray our side. She even gave the date when Boehner met with Obama.
Then Louis Gohmert says the same thing. Gohmert said ON PUBLIC TV LAST NIGHT that Boehner is a member of the other side.”
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Is it possible for you to provide urls for the Bachmann and Gohmert videos of these comments? Not at all doubting what you heard, but I missed those comments, and an extensive search turns up nothing.
Were they spoken from the floor? TV interviews? Did you save the clips? Help much appreciated.
FWIW: I am deeply disturbed by the actions of Boehner...and have been for some time. My “sloganish” analysis of most GOP legislators has been, “bribed, bought, or comatose.” That could surely encompass Boehner (in fact, all three), but lately, IMO, when he can muster the full force of his stature, it has been in service to retaining the full force of his stature.
No doubt, politics is a complicated business..., etc., etc...