Posted on 12/11/2014 8:52:13 PM PST by ctdonath2
“Congress and the American people have debated a number of different paths to try to hold President Obama accountable for his executive overreach. While there is still disagreement on which path is best, the path that we took in the House tonight is the first step to get us there. First and foremost, this bill holds the line on spending, implementing a spending level that is even lower than the one proposed in the original ‘too conservative to pass’ Paul Ryan budget. Additionally, the bill implements conservative priorities such as an increase in pay and funding for our troops, as well as accountability measures for the IRS and EPA.”
“While the bill implements restraints on executive overreach in many areas, it could not turn off the funding stream that the President intends to use for his executive actions on immigration. As conservatives, we have all been very frustrated by recent attempts at unilateral lawmaking by the Obama Administration. There is a misconception, however, that if we shut down the government that we can prevent him from acting. A government shutdown can’t stop him. His actions are funded with money that he raises through fees, so regrettably he can and will continue his unilateral efforts whether the government is funded or not. We must find another way.”
“Rather than having America’s attention focused on a government shutdown, we can shine the spotlight on the President’s egregious executive actions. By funding most of government for the long-term, but limiting funding to two months for the Department of Homeland Security—the agency planning to implement the President’s unilateral action—we will be able to narrow the entire funding conversation for the new Congress to this one department. The House, with a willing partner in the Senate having been sworn in, can then begin to move legislation to stop this President’s actions. With smart, targeted bills we will partner with the American people to restore Constitutional order.”
“Having a willing partner in the Senate isn’t ‘something’; it is ‘everything’. The House passed its funding bills beginning last May; but the Senate never passed a single funding bill all year. The American people can be certain that the new Senate sworn in this January will not repeat the current Senate’s inaction. The House can neither run the government nor rein in the President alone. Help is on the way in January, and it isn’t coming one day too soon.”
I understand the vitriol FReepers, me included, want to hurtle at him. Doesn't help, so keep it on other threads devoted thereto. There's his rationale; kindly analyze it for/with me. Sometimes you earnestly go with the best bad option you have, sometimes you rationalize stupidity - tell me which it is, and why.
I voted for this guy. I want to properly understand why he did this before calling and letting loose.
The Ryan bill was a freaking joke, citing that as a comparison is a laugher.
This bill does not hold Obama accountable for anything.
So i’s just another $1,100,000,000,000. What difference, at this point, does it make?
I do believe he was conned by Boehner’s leadership team. This is not a reduction in spending -— there are a goodly number of spending INCREASES and a number of accounting gimmicks masking those increases.
Read the damn bills you vote on. Don’t accept your lying leadership’s explanations of what is contained therein. They are lying “MOFOs”.
“... A government shutdown can’t stop him. His actions are funded with money that he raises through fees, so regrettably he can and will continue his unilateral efforts whether the government is funded or not. We must find another way.” ...
Yes, and this other “way” has a name - IMPEACHMENT! Stop with the BS about “president Biden” - because you can impeach his retarded ass too! In fact, put the entire bunch of these Marxist bastards on trial for treason - and then hang them from every lamp post down Pennsylvania Ave!
Meh.
depending on the courts is a dumb strategy
It’s not a strategy. That’s all we’ve got left, unfortunately.
Courts seem to have a bad track record recently of doing "the right thing."
I'm feeling particularly pessimistic this evening.
“Having a willing partner in the Senate isn’t ‘something’; it is ‘everything’.”
Big effing deal - Unless you can breach the two thirds threshold to over ride the O-HOLE’S veto , then you are not gonna do squat, sparky!
These cheapskate illegals aren’t going to be paying fees.
These “family values” illegals want us to pay to babysit their children. If there is no funding from taxpayers, 99% of them arent paying.
LIAR.
I’m sure that all who voted had at least some idea of what was in this homogeneous bill but actually doubt it - ha! Just another example of our Representatives passing bills under darkness (hey let’s just pass it and see what is in it), sounds of Obamacare...geez! It seems that the staff supporting these folks actually write the bills and of course nobody expends the time and effort to actually read them. I say we just quit electing politicians and let their staff do the work.
We elected Republicans to put down this nonsense and to our dismay (again) they disappoint us! Please give us another party to vote for!
Sorry, but all seems to be such a farce today - Democrats and Republicans...no matter. Until we the citizens revolt, nothing will change! I doubt that term limits will even change things. Those that want power will run and those that actually care will not! As I see it, most of us are too complacent to actually join in a revolt so we are doomed..
Count me too old and too pessimistic to see any future changes in any positive light. Damn both of our parties!
Yeah, sure - like we saw what happened when Obambicare reached the Supreme Court of progressive pigs? Oh, hey, how about those federal “judges” that continue to override state law banning sodomite “marriage” - Please quit asking me to “wait and see what happens” next - We’ve all been down this road so many times that the ruts are 6 feet deep!
....” Just another example of our Representatives passing bills under darkness (hey let’s just pass it and see what is in it), sounds of Obamacare”....
To the same tune of Christmas..FA _la _la!..and Ho ho ho!
Why are they funding Homelamd Security (and therefore Obama’s amnesty) until Feb 27? Why are they giving Obama two full months to begin the process of minting millions of new Democrat voters? Why not take it up first thing when the new Congress is seated?
It sounds to me like Boehner wants the amnesty program to be well under way before he ‘fights’ it. It sounds like he, and Woodall and all other Republicans who voted for the bill aren’t serious about stopping the amnesty.
It’s not a strategy. That’s all we’ve got left, unfortunately.
Not really. Nothing forced the GOP to fully fund the obama agenda in the lame duck. The fact you seem to be avoiding is the GOP wants things like the obama amnesty but don’t want their finger prints on it. This is a quid pro quo on amnesty. Obama does it, Boehner funds it.
..... the bill .... could not turn off the funding stream that the President intends to use for his executive actions on immigration......
And...what then? It’s still saying it’s a done deal for Amnesty adnd they aren’t stopping aything at all.
He’s a liar.
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