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1 posted on 12/16/2014 6:18:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If you knew as much as the high-school grad from 1965, you would still do OK today.


2 posted on 12/16/2014 6:20:05 AM PST by proxy_user
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Liberals have destroyed the family, promoted free sex and glorified single motherhood and they’re shocked that these kids remain poor?

Cry me a river.


3 posted on 12/16/2014 6:21:47 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Problem is that big-education just needs bodies in their government-school classrooms for the cash register to ring. It really doesn’t matter that 80% of minority graduates can’t even read or add 2 + 2 when they graduate. The teachers unions and their members still their government checks. That’s all that matters.


4 posted on 12/16/2014 6:23:19 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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Had a baby while unmarried at 17... I’m no Nostradamus, but I think I could have predicted how that would end up. My pity meter for Lakeesha and Kiara doesn’t budge. Of course, I’m still getting up at 6am and commuting for 2 hours to feed her baby, so I guess she doesn’t need my pity.


5 posted on 12/16/2014 6:23:47 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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Then she got pregnant...

You can stop reading there. It started out like it was going to be a feel-good story about a girl overcoming her environment to succeed in life. But when you are 17 and pregnant and the father is nowhere to be found, you know that the story is not going to have a happy ending.

Title is misleading. The college trap?

6 posted on 12/16/2014 6:24:19 AM PST by SamAdams76
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yeah, that gosh darn college trap.....got her pregnant at 17


8 posted on 12/16/2014 6:26:13 AM PST by Shamrock498
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quote “Then she got pregnant”

lol

well, THERE’S your problem! This girls problem wasn’t that she didn’t go to college. It’s that she couldn’t get her legs together!


9 posted on 12/16/2014 6:27:15 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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Want to ensure poverty for women and children?

Destroy the traditional family structure. Its really that simple.


10 posted on 12/16/2014 6:28:24 AM PST by PGR88
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There is a difference between growing up poor and growing up in a druggie household. The young woman in the story is more than just poor: raised in a drug house and was pregnant at 17. Even 30 years ago, it was virtually impossible for someone to overcome these issues, and with the cost of higher education spiraling out of control, it will only be worse.


11 posted on 12/16/2014 6:28:30 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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“That creates a paradox: Being poor is a big impediment to getting the education that lifts you out of poverty.”

BS!!! BS!!! BS!!! The story itself proves it! Poverty did not trip Lakeesha up!!!! UNMARRIED AT AGE 17, SHE HAD A BABY!!!!!! Her own dumb-ass choices tripped her up. Hey, Lakeesha, if you can pay for sneakers, the fancy nails, the weaves, and the expensive phone, you could probably buy a condom or 2. How’s that for higher math?


12 posted on 12/16/2014 6:28:46 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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College has been oversold.

Companies used to used IQ tests on new hires and select the smarter ones for in house management tracks. SCOTUS deemed IQ tests to be racist, so companies made College degrees a litmus test to hiring into a management track. At first it worked, because there was a strong correlation between IQ and college degrees.

That correlation no longer exists, but the government keeps pushing the concept that having a college degree, any degree, is the key to advancement and success. That is just a bunch of BS.

Children, especially minority children, are advanced through primary school without actually learning anything. Then because too many of them cannot qualify for college, especially minority children, they are given a free pass to enter college.

Because they are not prepared for a real college education, they drop out or move into seat warmer majors, that offer no real employment prospects.

When large numbers of these ill prepared and poorly educated graduates cannot find meaningful employment after graduation, we are told that the underlying problems are capitalism and/or racism.

14 posted on 12/16/2014 6:29:06 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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In 1965, a typical man whose education stopped after four years of high school earned a salary 15 percent higher than the median male worker.
Men enlisted, and were drafted, back then too and that military experience added to their education.
17 posted on 12/16/2014 6:30:26 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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My dad told me that back in the 70s you could quit one job at a plant, walk down the street the same day to another, and get hired to start in a couple of days.

Seems like a dream land compared to today, where you pay tons of money to end up working at a Target...maybe.


19 posted on 12/16/2014 6:31:29 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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No sex without marriage. That solves a lot of problems


20 posted on 12/16/2014 6:31:51 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Beau has had 14 Foster kids through his home over the past 20 years, mainly teen boys, as Beau is an awesome example of what a hard-working, successful, caring, compassionate MAN should be. (I’m not biased, of course!)

Anyhow, of those 14 kids, one of the boys is a semi-success; he only calls about once a year for money at this point. He’s in his 30’s and works menial jobs and will for life.

A good half of the other boys are in prison, or dead from drug use, or fatal car accidents.

The only girl that made it through high school is now also in her 30’s and is on Baby #3 with Baby Daddy #3. She has been given EVERY opportunity you could imagine; squandered them all.

The home lives these kids came from in the first place is what sets the tone. Hardly any of them make it out alive, or end up being self-supporting and productive in any way, shape or form. And that’s with a LOT of help and opportunities and guidance on how one SHOULD live their life and being held to task along the way.

Yep. Dems have done a GREAT job destroying the American Family and making people dependent upon Mother Government. Sure wish our side could find a way to reverse that and make every person a success.

Most days, I fear it’s a lost cause.


23 posted on 12/16/2014 6:35:50 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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College Is But One Component of The Liberal Trap That Keeps People Poor

There. Fixed it.

24 posted on 12/16/2014 6:36:19 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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um... who said that she has to go to college full time? go part time...

that said, too many people view college as a panecea to the good life. it isn’t. and the rising costs make it more of a gamble each year.

a lot of people arent’ college material.

but then again, i know a lot of people in the trades who make more than a college grad...


25 posted on 12/16/2014 6:37:24 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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...Then she got pregnant....

This is where the article's pity argument for more socialism ends.

29 posted on 12/16/2014 6:45:37 AM PST by kidd (What we have now is the federal gruberment)
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Well, this wasn't a well-written article. For some reason, I'm supposed to feel sorry for a person who made some poor decisions and needs to live with them.

What's not mentioned is "Community College". Or maybe it was - like I said, the article isn't well written .....

Someone like the subject of the article - not well-educated, from an unsupportive home - would be well-suited to some remedial work, I'd think. Getting a basic education, then learning a trade so that she could get a decent job and get herself out of the terrible rut that she was in - would be a good start.

Then ..... college. If it's necessary. It might not be, if she could make a decent living with basic tools.

But, that's just my opinion.

30 posted on 12/16/2014 6:46:00 AM PST by wbill
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To me, the real college trap today is that kids are brainwashed into thinking that they HAVE to have a college education in order to survive.

Truth is, the Obama economy has wrecked the chances of upward mobility even for college educated people.

So, you get a hundred thousand in student loans, get through college, and join the unemployment line.

Why? Because your government just got a boatload more H-1B’s and gave amnesty to 5,000,000 illegal trespassers.


32 posted on 12/16/2014 6:48:50 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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