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Poll: 80 Percent Back Putin Even as Ruble Falls
The New York Times ^ | Dec. 18, 2014 | The Associated Press

Posted on 12/17/2014 9:25:50 PM PST by Bettyprob

MOSCOW — From a Western perspective, Vladimir Putin's days as president of Russia should be numbered: The ruble has lost more than half its value, the economy is in crisis and his aggression in Ukraine has turned the country into an international pariah.

And yet most Russians see Putin not as the cause, but as the solution.

The situation as seen from a Russian point of view is starkly different from that painted in the West, and it is driven largely by state television's carefully constructed version of reality and the Kremlin's methodical dismantling of every credible political alternative.

As Putin prepares to face his public in a much-anticipated televised news conference, an Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll released Thursday found that about 80 percent of Russians still support him.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: polls; putin; russia
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1 posted on 12/17/2014 9:25:51 PM PST by Bettyprob
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To: Bettyprob

Wow! NYT easily recognized press altering reality to support one political view.


2 posted on 12/17/2014 9:29:32 PM PST by nicepaco
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To: Bettyprob

Ask (privately) them again in six months. You may get a very different answer.


3 posted on 12/17/2014 9:29:38 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Bettyprob

Blame Obama. His idiotic sanctions is the best cover for all the economic faults made by Russian government in a decade.
It is now all considered an act of war by the West.


4 posted on 12/17/2014 9:30:38 PM PST by wetphoenix
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To: Bettyprob

“The situation as seen from a American point of view is starkly different from that painted in the East, and it is driven largely by state television’s carefully constructed version of reality and the Obama administration’s methodical dismantling of every credible political alternative.”

Made a few minor changes but it still sounds right.


5 posted on 12/17/2014 9:31:50 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: nicepaco

Very good point in your post #2.


6 posted on 12/17/2014 9:32:07 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Bettyprob

They also have a very one-sided state-run media in Russia and people who oppose Putin seem to get hurt or prison time


7 posted on 12/17/2014 9:32:28 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

We have a pretty one-sided media much of the time, too. Until Fox News came along, it was ALL of the time.


8 posted on 12/17/2014 9:34:49 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: GeronL
They also have a very one-sided...media

We don't? I've seen pretty much nothing but "Russia bad; Ukraine good" since day one of this whole affair.

9 posted on 12/17/2014 9:46:02 PM PST by Bettyprob
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To: Bettyprob

And you would be getting an honestly taken poll from over there, much like the ones we get here.


10 posted on 12/17/2014 9:46:48 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: GeronL

I can’t escape the fact that Russians are a rare people who actually like one man rule. Whether he’s a Tsar, a Communist, or a President for Life. This way they don’t have to think too much or concern themselves with government. Keep ultra-nationalism and Russian chauvinism circulating to explain everything and they’re content no matter how poorly their ruler does. They seem to have the totalitarian personality built into their culture. Our Putinistas are like that.


11 posted on 12/17/2014 10:03:14 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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~I can’t escape the fact that Russians are a rare people who actually like one man rule. Whether he’s a Tsar, a Communist, or a President for Life.~

To believe Russia were and is ruled by one man is an utter stupidity.
Ask Khruschev or Gorby for starters.
Any leader may stay in power only as far as his policies are supported by quite numerous elites and elites are watching the public opinion very closely to be in line.
The level of control by the elites are somehow higher than in the west but to believe it is infinite is another stupidity.
The violence is actually a very rarely used method contrary to John McCain and other idiot’s propaganda. Russian elites just like their Western counterpart are mostly working to influence public opinion to get their way, sometimes they are very effectives, ofter not and in this case they are rarely pushing any further.
Russia is in no way a real dictatorship and has never been such since Stalin’s death. Much less after 1991.


12 posted on 12/17/2014 10:22:36 PM PST by wetphoenix
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To: Bettyprob

Ruble has been, according to Bloomberg, “Volatile, but steady” for more than 24 hours, along with oil prices, which went up a bit yesterday.

A stronger USD is a factor, too.
Canada and Norway are getting hit, as well.
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=RUB&view=12h


13 posted on 12/17/2014 10:43:14 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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In my city you can now both buy and sell USD for 63, Euro at 77 rubles.
Not only it is much lower than yesterday’s extremes, the lack of gap between buy and sell price is an obvious indicator that bankers aren’t expecting ruble to fall further.


14 posted on 12/17/2014 10:51:35 PM PST by wetphoenix
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To: Bettyprob

This week. Wait till the shelves are bare.


15 posted on 12/17/2014 11:26:05 PM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Kozak

USD under 59 rubles now from 63 a hour ago.


16 posted on 12/17/2014 11:27:39 PM PST by wetphoenix
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To: Bettyprob

“And yet most Russians see Putin not as the cause, but as the solution.”

Until he isn’t.


17 posted on 12/17/2014 11:32:41 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: Bettyprob

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18 posted on 12/17/2014 11:41:16 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: GeronL; All
They WE also have a very one-sided state-run media in Russia and people who oppose Putin O'BUMMER seem to get hurt or prison time DEAD.

And too many Americans wear giant blinders...

19 posted on 12/17/2014 11:45:49 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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For sure they’re got one thing we don’t - a leader who loves his country...

BTW, you DO know they just put in CCW law?

http://www.gunnews.com/russia-now-allows-citizens-concealed-crry/


20 posted on 12/17/2014 11:48:58 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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