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Saudi Arabia: We'll never cut oil production {OPEC really dead?}
CNN Money ^ | December 22, 2014 | John Defterios

Posted on 12/22/2014 5:28:28 AM PST by thackney

In an exclusive interview with CNN, Saudi oil minister Ali al-Naimi also said he wasn't conspiring to take out rival producers by driving down the price.

"These rumors or whoever generated them, is completely mistaken," he said.

U.S. crude prices have slumped by nearly 50% in six months, the sharpest fall for many years.

That has unsettled stock markets, accelerated a financial crisis in Russia, raised the risk that Venezuela will default and forced some U.S. producers to shed jobs and scale back investment.

Depending on which conspiracy theory you subscribe to, Saudi Arabia is waging an oil price war against fellow OPEC member Iran, Syria, Russia or even the U.S., its long-standing ally....

The door now seems firmly closed to any move by OPEC to cooperate with Russia and other leading non-OPEC producers to reduce supply to a world market awash with oil.

"If they want to cut production they are welcome, we are not going to cut, and certainly Saudi Arabia isn't going to cut," al-Naimi said. " [That] position we will hold forever, not [just] 2015."

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: energy; iran; kurdistan; lebanon; oil; oilglut; oilprice; opec; russia; saudiarabia; syria; venezuela
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1 posted on 12/22/2014 5:28:28 AM PST by thackney
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To: thackney

“Forever “ is a long time.


2 posted on 12/22/2014 5:34:53 AM PST by glorgau
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To: glorgau

My thoughts exactly.

I was think it should read “Never, as long as I am oil minister”

Which could change next week.


3 posted on 12/22/2014 5:36:27 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

They learned this from the Federal Reserve.


4 posted on 12/22/2014 5:37:27 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

LOL!


5 posted on 12/22/2014 5:38:42 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

OPEC has never really died during its history.Even though it’s members have tried to cut each other’s throats through he years by pumping above their agreed quota’s.


6 posted on 12/22/2014 5:39:18 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: puppypusher

Prior to last month’s meeting, Saudi made it clear they were not going to make the cuts to fund those that did not and their overspending governments.


7 posted on 12/22/2014 5:45:51 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Well, duh. They’ve already cut production a little (thanks thackney), and they know that the demand will bounce back, as will the world economy, and that will be of long term benefit.

So will the destruction of their (and our) enemies Pooty-Poot, the mullacracy in Iran, and ISIS.

The other target, not often talked about, is Turkey. Kurdistan will join the family of nations by their own sweat and blood, but also thanks to plenty of help from the GCC, even including Qatar, which has been a rat in the nest for a long while now. For Kurdistan to emerge, it will have to carve itself away from Turkey, Syria, and Iran. Iran occupies Syria, but the low oil price won’t help them stay there (and the $700 million a month Zero and Lurch send is going to build nuclear weapons), and Assad’s nearing the end of his family business. Turkey has been trying to oust Assad.

I’m looking forward to 2015.


8 posted on 12/22/2014 5:56:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ _____________________ Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: thackney

Political speech to serve a short-term purpose.

They will be back to what they do best: make money and preserve the royal family’s grip on power.


9 posted on 12/22/2014 6:02:31 AM PST by bestintxas (Every time a RINO is defeated a Founding Father gets his wings.)
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To: bestintxas

I think the Saudis take a longer view of the oil market than the rest of OPEC. They really do plan and invest. That doesn’t make the allies, but they are not fools.


10 posted on 12/22/2014 6:04:50 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: puppypusher

OPEC now has very little pricing power. Among the top five oil producing countries, only Saudi Arabia is an OPEC member.


11 posted on 12/22/2014 6:20:06 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: thackney

Saudi is in an existential struggle. It cannot afford to let Iran go nuclear - and Obama’s White House is all too obviously not going to do a damn thing.

This move is to destabilize Iran. All other effects are incidental.


12 posted on 12/22/2014 6:25:24 AM PST by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: riverdawg
OPEC now has very little pricing power.

OPEC has produced ~40% of the world oil supply for several decades. The only times it significantly produced less, was when they chose to drive prices higher by producing less oil, until the demand market caught back up.

Their "strength" in market share is essentially unchanged. But their ability to work together seems to have diminished, although they have often disagreed over the decades.

13 posted on 12/22/2014 6:52:29 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-11-25/opec-meeting-saudis-stare-down-oil-producers-in-texas-north-dakota

From the article: “For the first time in a long time, the ability to determine the price of oil no longer clearly resides with OPEC. Instead, it’s increasingly U.S. producers at the controls.”


14 posted on 12/22/2014 7:15:01 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg
the ability to determine the price of oil no longer clearly resides with OPEC

Because they are unwilling to act in agreement.

Instead, it’s increasingly U.S. producers at the controls.”

I do not agree we demonstrate any ability to control it except push downwards. We produce all we can economically produce, but have no coordination to limit production to raise prices.

15 posted on 12/22/2014 7:19:04 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney
OPEC has produced ~40% of the world oil supply for several decades.

Wow. Amazing statistic.

Looked at another way, this means that SA has had several decades to become thoroughly hooked on petrodollars.

16 posted on 12/22/2014 7:25:53 AM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: Steely Tom

Their reserves have not been verified in over a decade. They could be almost out and either not know it or don’t care.


17 posted on 12/22/2014 7:49:40 AM PST by BipolarBob
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Their reserves have not been verified in over a decade. They could be almost out and either not know it or don’t care.

I bet they care. They saw the video of what happened to Khadaffi just like everyone else. They care.

SA keeps everything a secret. They don't even release their population numbers.

I guess we'll know when their reserves are running low when they start fracking. They'll not be able to keep that a secret from the boys in the aowl business.

18 posted on 12/22/2014 7:59:26 AM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: Steely Tom

The House of Saud has over a trillion dollars of wealth. They can spend a billion $ a day on their country and still be okay.


19 posted on 12/22/2014 8:43:55 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob
The House of Saud has over a trillion dollars of wealth. They can spend a billion $ a day on their country and still be okay.

If you've got a trillion and you're spending a billion a day, your Khadaffi farewell moment arrives in two years, nine months.

20 posted on 12/22/2014 9:12:15 AM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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