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To: AdmSmith

Ever notice that when a new virus is found in ticks or mice it is always in one area.

Then as if by magic it suddenly pops up in other regions far distant, as Hantavirus did in the 4 Corners region, then Washington state and other areas.

Same for Lyme disease.

Maybe these diseases have been here all along jut never found in humans till one got really sick.

There was also some tick born disease (Heartland) killed a man in Delaware County OK this year.


9 posted on 12/26/2014 8:14:15 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Then as if by magic it suddenly pops up in other regions far distant...”

Well, ticks hitch rides on rodents and rodents hitch rides on anything that humans are riding in, so they can go anywhere pretty quick nowadays.


10 posted on 12/26/2014 8:19:10 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yes, that is correct for the vast majority of cases, but there are some that are imported. Viruses are very interesting.

check these sites: http://www.virology.ws/ http://www.iayork.com/MysteryRays/ and https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum?f=36


11 posted on 12/26/2014 8:19:17 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

all I know is that something better be done about ticks. just living with them is not going to work out. they don’t care if you are rural or not anymore. and they have so many damn diseases they are an evil cocktail of crap waiting to ruin the unfortunate person that happens to get unlucky.


13 posted on 12/26/2014 8:27:14 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Hanta virus titers have been discovered in the blood of people in the big rat-infested east coast cities. It is a strain carried by the rats that is not harmful to humans. It is believed to cause liberalism however so it IS harmful to humanity.


35 posted on 12/26/2014 10:04:10 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
the problem is that a lot of these viruses are similar in symptoms. If the man had come into my ER, I would have assumed he had Rocky Mountain Spotted fever, and put him on an antibiotic for this. True, he might also have had lyme disease, but the antibiotic for this is the same.

And most of these viruses get better on their own. Even the dreaded Rocky Mountain spotted fever probably does: Lots of folks in Oklahoma tested as having had the disease, but few remember ever being very sick.link. Since a lot of people test positive, if you have a person with a fever, you have to do TWO tests: one when they first come in, and one two weeks later. If they had RMSF, they might be dead by then, so you treat.

This being Oklahoma, a lot of people don't bother keeping the second appointment because they work for a living. And some of them got the tests, but it tested negative, so we didn't do any more testing

Here in the Philippines, we have lots of Dengue, most of which never go to the hospital. Now we also have chikungunya fever which has similar symptoms but not the hemorrhagic symptoms. Most people with both these diseases have mild cases and never see a physician, and those who do see a physician get better on their own. So we may have a few hundred reported cases, but the actual number is much higher. Most diseases are like that: mild cases that stay under the radar of detection until a big epidemic hits

In other words: These viruses are around, but no tests were available for them, or else the folks got better. Either way, it wasn't diagnosed. Now it is.

As for Hanta virus on the Navajo reservation: medicine men remembered a similar epidemic in a rainy year many years earlier, which was a clue that it was not a "new" disease but one that had popped up again due to more rain (i.e. in this case, more mice).

Lots of these viruses around, and diseases such as bubonic plague (and I suspect Ebola and HIV) are "endemic" but usually stop after one or two cases. Then something happens, and voila, epidemics.

Ebola is spreading in an area decimated by civil wars and a broken down infrastructure. HIV spread due to the opening of isolated villages to roads and because long haul truckdrivers tended to visit the local ladies (as they do in the US). It spread in the US because gay pressure stopped the closing of the bathhouses which were the focal point of an epidemic of syphilis and hepatitis B.

However, if you really want to worry, I was reading about a hemorrhagic disease that killed a lot more Mexicans than smallpox etc.brought by the Spanish, and it was a local disease.LINK...if that one pops up again, the US might be affected.

38 posted on 12/26/2014 3:21:00 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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