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Why does the military insist on saluting?
BBC News ^ | 5th January 2014 | Justin Parkinson

Posted on 01/06/2015 2:51:08 PM PST by the scotsman

'The UK's Ministry of Defence has issued a reminder to young officers to salute their superiors. But when did this form of greeting originate and why is it used, asks Justin Parkinson.'

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dominance; submission
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To: the scotsman

It goes back at least as far as the Roman empire.

Originally the salute was just holding your hand out, above your head, to show that you were not holding a weapon. It was a practical reassurance that you weren’t intending to kill the person approaching you, and then it eventually evolved into a more symbolic tradition.


21 posted on 01/06/2015 4:25:58 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Hot Tabasco

I like it!

Special Forces could use the “soul” shake to differentiate themselves.


22 posted on 01/06/2015 4:27:36 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Billthedrill

Because my DI would have slapped the crap out of me if I didn’t.

Yup! Got caught with a pocket unbuttoned....never did that again. :-)


23 posted on 01/06/2015 5:02:09 PM PST by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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To: Boogieman

“Hands up, don’t shoot.”


24 posted on 01/06/2015 5:09:07 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: SkyDancer
It’s a sign of respect to a higher officer.

Who should return the salute, showing mutual respect. That is a key part of it as well.

25 posted on 01/07/2015 8:42:05 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: the scotsman; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty/Retiree ping.


26 posted on 01/07/2015 8:45:30 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: naturalman1975
"Who should return the salute, showing mutual respect. That is a key part of it as well."

When in military decorum is it proper for the reverse to happen? (When a Superior salutes a subordinate first)

27 posted on 01/07/2015 8:46:36 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: naturalman1975

Good point. I read in the basic training manual that the highest-ranking general in the Army is required to return the salute of the lowest-ranking recruit. The returned salute is intended to show the same respect given by the higher-ranking officer to the lower rank.


28 posted on 01/07/2015 8:47:54 PM PST by chimera
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To: Mad Dawgg
I seem to remember in “Heartbreak Ridge” the superior officers would, on certain occasions, “snap to” when they saw Gunny Highway was a MoH recipient. So maybe that is true in real life as well?
29 posted on 01/07/2015 8:50:16 PM PST by chimera
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To: Jet Jaguar

In Vietnam, we were discouraged from saluting outside, for obvious reasons, as in the enemy can see the leaders and target them first.


30 posted on 01/07/2015 8:52:17 PM PST by PROCON (Always give 100% -- unless you're donating Blood.)
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To: PROCON

Same downrange currently.


31 posted on 01/07/2015 8:54:26 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: chimera
Yep that is one.

Most of the other times are during ceremonies when a subordinate is receiving a medal or citation (though not always)

Saluting an armed forces member who was awarded and presently wearing the MOH is not required by any military code but it is one of those unwritten rules that become ingrained in an institution.

32 posted on 01/07/2015 9:00:50 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: yarddog

Didn’t the Romans salute by putting their fist against their chest?....Supposedly that was to show their superior “My life (heart) is yours to do with.”


33 posted on 01/07/2015 9:05:23 PM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
The obvious one for the US is the saluting of a recipient of the Medal of Honor. You may be interested to know that American tradition is now being incorporated into Commonwealth militaries where it is becoming tradition that anybody should salute the recipient of a Victoria Cross.

An Australian example can be seen here at youtube.

Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston AC AFC: As the highest ranking member of the Australian Defence Force, there has been no current serving member that I salute, until now.

Though there is no statutory requirement, tradition holds that even the most senior officer will salute a Victoria Cross recipient as a mark of the utmost respect for their act of valour.

It will be my great honour from this moment forth to salute Trooper Mark Donaldson, VC.

(The occasion was the first awarding of a Victoria Cross to an Australian soldier since Vietnam)

34 posted on 01/07/2015 11:35:55 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Covenantor
One salutes Field Marshall von Mackensen out of respect and fear. And because the last feldwebel who failed to do so lost his head. His shrunken skull reminds the lesser ranks to snap to, boot stamp, etc, etc.

Must be something about the Krautisch genome.


35 posted on 01/07/2015 11:52:28 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Safetgiver
Didn’t the Romans salute by putting their fist against their chest?....Supposedly that was to show their superior “My life (heart) is yours to do with.”

I think that is where Jack Swagger (WWE) leaned his salute. We, the people. :-)

36 posted on 01/08/2015 12:53:03 AM PST by Mark17 ( All thru dark hours dreary, knocking again is He. Jesus are thou not weary, waiting so long for me?)
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To: Mad Dawgg

1) To a Medal of Honor recipient
2) When rendering honors at a memorial ceremony


37 posted on 01/08/2015 4:53:22 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: naturalman1975

Well the way my dad explained it, the lower rank salutes first and the higher rank returns it.


38 posted on 01/08/2015 7:40:20 AM PST by SkyDancer
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To: naturalman1975

A very fine tribute. I have always thought that Aussies are the best allies we have.


39 posted on 01/08/2015 9:07:34 AM PST by chimera
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To: cynwoody
Naw, that punk is a pale wannabee. The fear he engendered was of the men he commanded. Von Mackensen would have been feared for what he might personally do, right then and there.

One of Field Marshall von Mackensen nicknames was the "Last Hussar"

That's his Hussar uniform. With the heavy saber Hussars carried he could have carried out a Night of the Long Knives by his own self.

IIRC, an English unit also used the death's head insignia.

40 posted on 01/08/2015 5:31:39 PM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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