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Connecticut Supreme Court Rules State Can Force Chemotherapy On Teen
Hartford Courant ^ | 1/8/15 | Josh Kovner

Posted on 01/08/2015 11:55:21 AM PST by Nachum

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To: Lurking Libertarian

No medical authority can guarantee a cancer cure, and this one didn’t either. The definition of cure has even been changed to remission for ever smaller amounts of time. Residual long-term effects on the body of imbibing the ferocious poisons that make up chemotherapy are also not well understood or documented, and the testimonies of suffering former patients are commonly ignored for purely mercenary reasons. The chemo could kill the cancer fast and her slow, and if she died from the chemo after a certain period of time the same doctors and legal system would call it a cure and a success at her gravesite - and that’s an all-too- common statistical fact.

As well, we are talking about a so-called child only a half-year from her 18th birthday who also has the legal authority to get an abortion on her own.

In short, she HAS reached “the age of full and legal discretion when she can make that choice for herself,” from your SCOTUS quote, IN FACT.

And there ARE legitimate alternate medical theories and healing approaches to cancer accepted around the whole world.

As I said, and I repeat, this decision was an atrocity.


61 posted on 01/08/2015 4:19:22 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

BTW, your SCOTUS quote directly counters your FReepname.

Shoulda used one of the other ones.


62 posted on 01/08/2015 4:22:02 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: William Tell

who pee’d in your wheat’s, i am not forcing anyone to do anything, i asked a simple question


63 posted on 01/08/2015 4:34:33 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46
markman46 said: "who pee’d in your wheat’s, i am not forcing anyone to do anything, i asked a simple question"

Well, I apologize then.

Somehow I was under the mistaken impression that your "simple question" contained the assumption that the mother and daughter are in a hurry for the daughter to die.

64 posted on 01/08/2015 4:42:14 PM PST by William Tell
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To: Shimmer1

hang in there FRiend!

i also wonder who involved child services the hosp or the dr’s


65 posted on 01/08/2015 4:43:36 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Nachum

Mama is opposed to putting toxins and poisons in her daughters body.. Cassandra does not like being sick or having her hair falling out. Those are temporary.

Death is forever. Chemo is not.

Left untreated, Cassandra WILL die. With chemo he has a 90% survival rate. Mama said they are looking for alternative treatments.My first question would be why hasn’t she already found one?

I also heard Mama say Cassandra will not die. Well, yes she will, unless she gets treatment.

Although it pains me, I have to agree with the courts here. Legally Cassandra can make decisions when she is 18. But now, the decision is out of her hands.


66 posted on 01/08/2015 4:47:14 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Shimmer1

No i have not had to make THAT choice, but i have to make some end of life decisions for my wife soon and that is no fun either, i have seen up close and personal the ravages of chemo! also seen the ravages of dialysis too


67 posted on 01/08/2015 4:50:09 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: William Tell

excepted!!! now just who called child services on mom and daughter to get the ball rolling?? dr’s or hospital??

I didn’t agree with the court at all!!


68 posted on 01/08/2015 4:57:04 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Nachum
The state Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a Windsor Locks teen is not legally mature enough to decide against life-saving chemotherapy.

But 13-year-olds everywhere are across the board "legally mature" enough to choose abortion that kills her baby.

I don't remember who said it, but the law is, indeed, an ass.

69 posted on 01/08/2015 4:57:43 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Montana_Sam

Makes me wonder know, what if the government can also decide that if a 14 year old girl is pregnant and might not have the means to take care of it, Could the government then decide that the baby will not be reasonable taking cared of and she must abort?

What is the extent of the government reach? Will Obummer care also decide who can have a baby and who can not? Seems to me that this could also open the door to other things the government decides.
Just never know where this can go next.


70 posted on 01/08/2015 4:59:07 PM PST by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter)
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To: Lizavetta
Idon't remember who said it, but the law is, indeed, an ass.

Pretty much every FReeper since Jim Rob started the forum. Well, excepting the trolls, paid shills, and other feds.

Heck, lots of us are repeat offenders.

71 posted on 01/08/2015 5:06:29 PM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: markman46

It’s not quite the same as living through it though.


72 posted on 01/08/2015 7:07:00 PM PST by Shimmer1 (Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil. Thomas Mann)
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To: GizzyGirl

ugghhhhh thanks. I’m keeping trying. Last week my chemo was cancelled because my numbers weren’t good enough, and this is my off week, so I haven’t had chemo in two weeks. Today was a fairly good day. I wish I could never have it again, but alas.......


73 posted on 01/08/2015 7:08:47 PM PST by Shimmer1 (Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil. Thomas Mann)
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To: exit82; Vermont Lt; Shimmer1; Osage Orange
Thank you all for the kind words and thoughts. WifeofZeugma was clear for a little over 2 years, after having gone through chemo, surgery, and radiation. Unfortunately, she never did really get her heath back completely IMO. In November we got news that markers showed up in her regularly scheduled tests, so she's doing the chemo thing again.

The only thing that has kept us more or less sane is our faith in the Lord that he'll do with this what he will. The chemo is worse this time I think because her system just isn't as strong as it was the first time. Having seen all this stuff up close, I'd not go through with it myself. From what I understand of things, it's better than it used to be just 10 years ago, but it's still something that I suspect that doctors a hundred years from now will recoil from the same way we do with bloodleting and leaches.

The Lord has been putting her to use though, and I hope He will continue to do so for a long while before He calls her home.

74 posted on 01/08/2015 8:15:16 PM PST by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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To: markman46
wonder why the mom and daughter is such a hurry for the daughter to die???

The better question, the one which affects millions instead of one family is this:

I wonder why the Sate is in such a hurry to steal the parents child?

75 posted on 01/08/2015 9:02:16 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: Shimmer1

that is true


76 posted on 01/08/2015 9:32:08 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Nachum

“Connecticut Supreme Court Rules State Can Force Chemotherapy On Teen”

Then they have to pick up 100% of the cost!


77 posted on 01/09/2015 5:44:10 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Lizavetta

If memory serve, Oscar Wilde.


78 posted on 01/10/2015 7:17:40 AM PST by baltimorepoet
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