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To: EveningStar

From the Article,

“60% believe that climate change is not occurring. [They’re probably wrong, but their views are not radically different from those of the average American. The study purports to show not only that Fox News viewers believe untrue things, but also that they believe untrue things at a rate significantly different from Americans at large.]”

I think the author’s comments show his own ignorance and bias. First, most FOX viewers are very likely to realize that the climate is always changing as do “97% of climate scientists”. Only idiots and those intentionally trying to mislead frame the question that way. The real question is whether CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels plays a significant role in warming the atmosphere. At this time there is very little real world data that supports the hypothesis, especially since satellite data which is not as subject to siting problems and manipulation has shown no statistically significant warming in over 18 years despite rising CO2 levels.

Then of course there are all of the other contradictions. The amount of CO2 released into the atmosphere from the burning of fossil fuels currently can explain only a small percentage of the current rise in CO2 levels. The vast majority of the rise in CO2 can only be coming from sources other than the burning of fossil fuels.

We are told that the oceans are absorbing vast amounts of CO2 causing the oceans to become more acidic, yet data from actual measurements does not support this. It seems more likely that the most of the increase in CO2 levels is coming from the oceans as they have been slowly warming for hundreds of years since the “little ice age”. As water that has absorbed CO2 rises in temperature it releases CO2.

It seems very likely that the author’s comments which demonstrate almost no understanding of the actual issue indicate that he has less understanding than those whose opinions he is making light of.

Then he also says,
“63% believe that Obama was not born in the U.S. (or that it is unclear). [That’s nuts.]”

If that is “nuts” then why is it that Obama has refused to release his school records? Why has he released two “birth certificates” which both have serious forensics issues, along with a selective service form that is an obvious forgery? Why won’t Obama allow the originals of any of these documents to be examined by actual experts? The way this has all been handled raises a lot of questions. So who is “nuts”? People who would like to see meaningful verification from someone who has been known to be a serial liar for all of his adult life? Or those who accept the claims of serial liar without any meaningful verification? We live in a topsy turvy world when common sense is called “nuts”.


16 posted on 01/14/2015 12:20:15 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

>>If that is “nuts” then why is it that Obama has refused to release his school records? Why has he released two “birth certificates” which both have serious forensics issues, along with a selective service form that is an obvious forgery? Why won’t Obama allow the originals of any of these documents to be examined by actual experts? The way this has all been handled raises a lot of questions. So who is “nuts”? People who would like to see meaningful verification from someone who has been known to be a serial liar for all of his adult life? Or those who accept the claims of serial liar without any meaningful verification? We live in a topsy turvy world when common sense is called “nuts”.

Count me among the nuts.


21 posted on 01/14/2015 1:41:37 PM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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