[kiryandil]

DoodleDawg wrote: And of the tariffs used to subsidize those federal expenditures only a small fraction were collected in the South. and When you're not paying much of the tariff to begin with then why worry about it?

As usual, you're resorting to the old trick of being deliberately obtuse in order to cling to your argument:

As early as the Revolutionary War, the South primarily produced cotton, rice, sugar, indigo and tobacco. The North purchased these raw materials and turned them into manufactured goods. By 1828, foreign manufactured goods faced high import taxes. Foreign raw materials, however, were free of tariffs.

Thus the domestic manufacturing industries of the North benefited twice, once as the producers enjoying the protection of high manufacturing tariffs and once as consumers with a free raw materials market. The raw materials industries of the South were left to struggle against foreign competition.

Because manufactured goods were not produced in the South, they had to either be imported or shipped down from the North. Either way, a large expense, be it shipping fees or the federal tariff, was added to the price of manufactured goods only for Southerners. Because importation was often cheaper than shipping from the North, the South paid most of the federal tariffs.

This isn't some description from a "Lost Cause" website - it's from the website of a wealth management company - Marotta Wealth Management.

It's economics, which makes peoples' eyes glaze over, yours apparently included.

[DoodleDawg]

Because manufactured goods were not produced in the South, they had to either be imported or shipped down from the North. Either way, a large expense, be it shipping fees or the federal tariff, was added to the price of manufactured goods only for Southerners. Because importation was often cheaper than shipping from the North, the South paid most of the federal tariffs.

That makes very little sense. Consumers in the South paid shipping costs. So did consumers in Ohio and Illinois and Minnesota and Vermont and anywhere else where the goods were sent after they were manufactured. So everyone in all parts of the country paid a premium for goods protected by tariffs and also paid shipping costs to get the goods from the point of manufacture to the point of consumption. And since the large majority of the population, read consumers, was not in the South then claim that the South paid most of the tariff still makes no sense.

It's economics, which makes peoples' eyes glaze over, yours apparently included.

No, it's just another unsourced claim we're supposed to take at face value and which makes no sense when looked at it objectively.