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Scottish soldier's diary tells of horror at New Orleans
BBC ^ | 22 Jan 2015 | BBC

Posted on 01/22/2015 3:14:08 AM PST by MadMitch

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To: MountainYankee

That’s right.
Andy’s boys were filling alligators’ heads with cannon balls and powdering their behinds with gunpowder.
It blew their minds, but these were truly patriotic, red-white-and-blue, volunteer reptiles.


41 posted on 01/22/2015 5:31:25 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: MadMitch

The article continues the myth that the battle was pointless as it was fought after the Treaty of Ghent was signed ending the war. In fact, the British had insisted on certain language in the treaty which puzzled the American negotiators at the time. Unaware of the British plans to invade and occupy New Orleans, the Americans conceded the language because it seemed harmlessly redundant. However, if the British had occupied New Orleans, even after the a treaty, the seemingly harmless language would have established their claim to it.


42 posted on 01/22/2015 5:42:05 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: Adder
The Battle of New Orleans--Lonnie Donegan (1959)

In this version, the protagonist is fighting under "Colonel" Pakenham, and they're using muskets, not squirrel guns.

43 posted on 01/22/2015 5:53:28 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Adder

Maybe not a toe-tapper, but sure to touch your funny bone...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x92lu0a-boY
The Smothers Brothers, My Old Man’s a cotton-pickin-finger-lickin-chicken-plucker!


44 posted on 01/22/2015 6:00:35 AM PST by gnickgnack2 (QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
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To: Adder

Lonnie Donegan was great. Listen to his skiffle sessions. Good stuff.


45 posted on 01/22/2015 6:17:55 AM PST by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: rarestia

You are not the only one whose attempt at humor was missed...


46 posted on 01/22/2015 6:38:53 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: PUGACHEV

Thanks. I did not know that.


47 posted on 01/22/2015 6:38:54 AM PST by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: ArtDodger

Too much time on Imgur, I guess. I expect people to “get” the humor.


48 posted on 01/22/2015 6:46:19 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Bigg Red

To all who replied: Thanks FRiends.

I know there is always someone who knows the answers!

I will check Mr.Donegan out!


49 posted on 01/22/2015 7:08:46 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: PUGACHEV

But the American viewpoint continues the myth that the battle was the last battle and decisive. In fact, the British simply marched away and took Mobile.


50 posted on 01/22/2015 7:10:38 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: Tennessee Nana

cor blimey trousers.


51 posted on 01/22/2015 7:10:52 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: MountainYankee

“we filled his head with cannonballs and powdered his behind, and when we lit the powder off we blew the gator’s mind!”


52 posted on 01/22/2015 7:12:30 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: the scotsman

Thank you

:)


53 posted on 01/22/2015 7:15:43 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: the scotsman

” In fact, the British simply marched away and took Mobile.”

Fat lot of good it did for them.

L


54 posted on 01/22/2015 7:16:14 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: the scotsman
If the British had won the battle and captured New Orleans, they could have continued the war and demanded territorial concessions from the US, despite the Treaty of Ghent (which had not yet been ratified).

Gen. Edward Pakenham (1778-1815), who was killed in the battle of New Orleans, was the first cousin of Richard Pakenham (1797-1868), the British diplomat who negotiated the Oregon Treaty in 1846 which divided the Oregon Territory between the US and British North America. Both were born in County Westmeath, Ireland.

55 posted on 01/22/2015 7:31:52 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: R. Scott

His Greatest Hits was one of the first LP’s I ever owned.

Johnny Horton had an amazing voice.

Always liked Springtime in Alaska the best.


56 posted on 01/22/2015 7:33:57 AM PST by CTyank
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To: Star Traveler

It, like Lexington and Concord are no longer celebrated in the USA. Not even a mention in the newspapers on those days.

Maybe it has to do with citizen militias joining with Army troops in the battle.


57 posted on 01/22/2015 7:44:18 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: MadMitch

What would London have done if the Brits had won at New Orleans?


58 posted on 01/22/2015 7:44:27 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: Adder

I know there is always someone who knows the answers!

***
Boy, that’s the truth. I usually learn something from another FReeper every time I am here.


59 posted on 01/22/2015 7:50:55 AM PST by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: the scotsman
It is certainly an interesting and overlooked period of history. There are really not enough books that one can read about it. The British never actually took Mobile. They forced the surrender of Ft. Bowyer, and prepared to attack the city, but Admiral Cochrane called it off when news of the Treaty of Ghent finally arrived two days later.

What I have always thought interesting, and ironic considering the outcome, was how elaborate were the British preparations for the attack on New Orleans. There were literally shiploads of clerks and scribes, their families, and their goods in Cochrane's fleet waiting offshore for the thoughtful purpose of establishing an efficient civil administration in New Orleans once it had been captured. The way things turned out, they never set foot on land.

60 posted on 01/22/2015 7:58:23 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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