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Governor: Legalizing pot was bad idea
The Hill ^ | January 23, 2015 | Kevin Cirilli

Posted on 01/23/2015 7:13:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Colorado’s decision to legalize marijuana was a bad idea, the state’s governor said Friday.

Gov. John Hickenlooper, a Democrat who opposed the 2012 decision by voters to make pot legal, said the state still doesn’t fully know what the unintended consequences of the move will be.

If I could've waved a wand the day after the election, I would've reversed the election and said, 'This was a bad idea,’” Hickenlooper said Friday on CNBC's “Squawk Box.”

“You don't want to be the first person to do something like this,” he said.

He said that he tells other governors to “wait a couple of years” before legalizing marijuana as Colorado continues to navigate an unknown, non-existing federal regulatory landscape for the industry.

“There's a whole regulatory environment... that really regulates alcohol,” he said. “We're starting from scratch and we don't have a federal partner because [marijuana] is still illegal federally.”

In February 2014, the Obama administration released guidelines for the marijuana industry indicating the federal officials would not target financial institutions or businesses engaging in selling pot as long as those businesses were compliant with state laws.

Despite the guidelines, banks are reluctant to finance marijuana businesses in states where it is legal because federal law still lists marijuana as an illegal drug. Congress would need to pass a law removing that language.

Marijuana is legal in four states: Colorado, Oregon, Alaska and Washington. Congress has blocked the District of Columbia from legalizing pot after voters in November cast ballots that they wanted to make the drug legal.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Colorado; US: District of Columbia; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: buyersremorse; cannabis; dontbogartthatjoint; drugs; federalism; johnhickenlooper; legaldope; marijuana; nannystate; pot; potheads; warondrugs; wod
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To: DiogenesLamp
You think people ship chemical weapons into this nation are engaging in commerce?

Here's the deal with "original intent" - It doesn't matter what your or I think. Asking what I think about it is just a distraction to keep you from having to actually provide any answers.

What matters is what the people who wrote and ratified the Constitution thought.

161 posted on 01/23/2015 12:47:10 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: varyouga

This ain’t so either, if only because of its physiological effects. It is known to panic unaccustomed users, who then in panic could do something harmful and stupid. It causes the heart to race which could leave a vulnerable person with a cardiac problem dead... not exactly temporary.


162 posted on 01/23/2015 12:47:11 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Why do you keep putting out laughably illogical statements. It’s almost as if you partook of... well, you know. Does that lamp smell like oregano?

You assert a laughably illogical statement, but you do not cite a particular statement and identify it as laughable nor your reasons for thinking it so.

Just what is it about one of my statements that you consider laughable?

163 posted on 01/23/2015 12:47:21 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

You are not going to get anywhere with culture or any other thing on earth unless hung squarely on God, which means facing truths and limitations you do not like.


164 posted on 01/23/2015 12:48:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I have pointed out several.


165 posted on 01/23/2015 12:49:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DiogenesLamp; HiTech RedNeck
I do not post comments saying we need to *CHANGE* the existing culture.

Who does post such comments? All I've seen is calls for changing some laws.

166 posted on 01/23/2015 12:50:38 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Actually, I’d like to see a gospel consciousness even as good as the 1800s had. Talk about rolling a “cultural” influence back. I know my proposal knocks the shallow cultural warriors out of the water because it really does go to the root of things.


167 posted on 01/23/2015 12:54:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: varyouga

Funny story. I hooked up with this guy on a golf course and we played together. Never met him before just a two-sum.
Anyway we finish the front nine the guys not bad he shoots like a 44 or something. So we are on the 10th tee and he asks me if I was a cop and I said no. He immediate whips out a joint and finishes it by the time we get to the 10th green. I could see his game deteriorating slowly by the time we got the 15th hole he said don’t bother keeping his score. He shot like a 60 something on the back nine. So that is kind of like a microcosm of life. He is doing good then he doesn’t give shit. Pot.


168 posted on 01/23/2015 12:55:04 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Yes, people can become mentally addicted and use pot constantly until they neglect other things. It also happens with video games, porn, facebook, food, shopping etc. Should we ban everything potentially addictive?

The difference from other drugs is that it is only a mental addiction and once they quit, is never permanent damage and the impairment stops almost immediately.

Abusers of alcohol and Rx drugs become chemically addicted and have permanent damage after they quit.


169 posted on 01/23/2015 12:55:04 PM PST by varyouga
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Have you been smoking? Maybe you’re actually a plant in favor of pot by putting out enough strawmen. (Hempmen?)

Decided to move from "neutral" to an active pot-shot-er eh? Well it's about time. I hate false camaraderie anyways.

Correlation is not causation. I’m seeing a bunch of cheap shots here.

And once again, you failed to identify which statment draws your ire, but upon looking you seem to take offense at the notion that shipments of Opium into China cannot accurately represent Usage by people in China.... as if they did something else with it other than smoke it.

Or was it that other thing? That increases in entitlement payments to additional parasites might accurately represent increased pot usage?

Doesn't seem like a long stretch to me. I know lots of pot smokers and they all get government checks. As a matter of fact, all the people i've ever known who are on welfare also happen to smoke weed.

Seems like a pretty good correlation to me.

170 posted on 01/23/2015 12:56:35 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: central_va

This is why golfers don’t usually imbibe alcohol while playing, either, unless it really isn’t about the golf in the first place. The Arnold Palmer is not made with hard lemonade....


171 posted on 01/23/2015 12:57:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

The strawmen are plentiful and you have multiplied them even more in your post.

I am not concerned about convincing you. Can’t be done against your will. I am marking you with cautionary signs for others who are thoughtful. Jihads have a way of making you stupid.


172 posted on 01/23/2015 12:59:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
That sounds like a risky scheme at best, quite likely to get police raiding him at midnight when one of these lasses spilled the beans.

Why would they spill the beans on their pimp and drug dealer? Are you kidding? They will do anything they can think of to protect him.

He got away with it for decades. The only thing he ever did go to prison for was making fake checks.

173 posted on 01/23/2015 12:59:34 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

Calling deep B.S. on this. No family, no friends, not even a church... even a sympathetic john who really does not want a dopey partner and thinks of his sister... all it takes is someone to care about one of these gals and the jig is up.

You pulling this out of your hind end.


174 posted on 01/23/2015 1:02:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Monty22002
He was mrleroy for a long time, awhile ago. Then justsaynotonannies. He’s an old timer for sure with the same exact message the whole time.

I believe that. Others have pointed out that he had been zotted before.

What is it about pot smoking that makes some people so obsessive about it? Obviously they are able to get all they want, so why make waves?

It is exactly like the queers who are not content to be ignored, but must insist on putting their weirdity in everyone's faces and demanding acknowledgement.

What they are really looking for is affirmation.

175 posted on 01/23/2015 1:02:38 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I am not an expert on pot and golf but what I noticed is that he could still drive the ball ok but my God when he was on the green he could put at all I mean embarrassing. First he’d hit it 5 feet to short then the net put he rolls it past the cup and off the green. Then he picks it up and says “I’ll see at the tee” and walks off.


176 posted on 01/23/2015 1:04:13 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

The only affirmation desired is that of sound principle. Government is not God, when it tries to be God it enters the realm of trouble.


177 posted on 01/23/2015 1:05:23 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: central_va

I don’t look to a government to define my morals. If you do, city, state, federal, you are in a world of hurt.


178 posted on 01/23/2015 1:05:51 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I don’t look to a government to define my morals. If you do, city, state, federal, you are in a world of hurt.

You are twisting it 180 degrees out. There are things that help a parent and things that work against parent. A parent is an authority figure. The state is an authority figure. I could be wrong but most parents do not want their kid smoking weed. So a good parent a says smoking pot is bad for you and a wrong thing to do. The state says it's ok pot is legal. Now we have two authority figures with contrary "rules". Not good.

179 posted on 01/23/2015 1:11:47 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
And cannabis evolved to mimic the human body's naturally produced endocannabinoids - or perhaps the other way around.

It evolved to mimic mammalian endocrinal secretions because this is the method plants have always used to produce toxins to mitigate predation.

The plant evolves a chemical similar to a nervous system process in their predators in an effort to KILL OR DISABLE the predator.

I suspect if humans ate an entire marijuana plant (as might a herbivore) they would probably walk off a cliff or sit in a pasture until the wolves got them.

In the dosage humans take, it does little more than mess up their minds for a little while. (so far as we currently know.)

The THC produced by plants is a defense mechanism to make animals leave them alone, and here we stupid humans got to come along and start messing with the poor darlings.

Leave the plants alone! They don't want to get smoked! (or eaten!)

180 posted on 01/23/2015 1:11:49 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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