Posted on 02/01/2015 6:03:17 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski
HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. — Their children have been sent home from school. Their families are barred from birthday parties and neighborhood play dates. Online, people call them negligent and criminal. And as officials in 14 states grapple to contain a spreading measles outbreak that began near here at Disneyland, the parents at the heart of America’s anti-vaccine movement are being blamed for incubating an otherwise preventable public-health crisis.
Measles anxiety rippled thousands of miles beyond its center on Friday as officials scrambled to try to contain a wider spread of the highly contagious disease — which America declared vanquished 15 years ago, before a statistically significant number of parents started refusing to vaccinate their children. In recent days, new measles cases popped up in Nebraska and Minnesota, New York and Marin County in California. Officials around the country reported rising numbers of patients who were seeking shots, as well as some pediatricians who were accepting non-vaccinated families but were debating changing their policies. The White House urged parents to listen to the science that supports inoculations...
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“But perhaps you should have linked to the government data rather than someone’s opinion of the government data. Let the data speak for itself.”
The web-page links to the government CDC and to CBS news, etc.
I am assuming FReepers are adults and capable of great discernment.
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Well yes BECAUSE people vaccinate! Stop vaccinating and that number will be in the hundreds every year.
Well, we know that all vaccinations aren’t 100% successful. This year’s flu shot, for example, is now rated around 30% successful I hear.
So I can see why the possible ramifications of a growing number of unvaccinated children might pose to others. Measles isn’t as dangerous as some diseases, but small pox and polion are much deadlier by historical standards and have almost been eradicated worldwide.
Most people today don’t remember polio, but I grew up with the danger of polio outbreaks recurring every summer and one year I couldnt go out to play because of the danger.
But you let a large number of folks go unprotected from small pox or polio. and you have a reservoir of folks without any natural protection who could develop it and carry it.
I have a hard time with this because I can see both sides.
silly reason not to have children
Yes but the government site didn’t back your assertion.
Yes, it did...
“Influenza vaccination in the United States has long been recommended for all persons 65 years or older.9 Vaccination coverage for this age group increased from between 15% and 20% before 1980 to 65% in 2001.10 However, 3-year moving averages of unadjusted excess P&I mortality rates among people 65 years or older—compiled for the Healthy People 2000 initiative11 to track the effect of vaccination on US influenza-related mortality—rose substantially during this period.12 This was surprising because influenza vaccination is thought to be highly effective at reducing influenza-related mortality.13- 19”
Some people are really, really, really stupid when it comes to trusting the medical industry. Really stupid. Did I mention they are stupid ?
Your ELDERLY relatives were in the hospital maybe because they were ELDERLY...which meany that they took their meds and lived a LONG time=elderly.
You are absolutely correct when you say some people are stupid...really stupid, and yes you mentioned that some are really stupid when it comes to trusting the medical profession....REALLY STUPID....those are the ones who don't trust the profession...REALLY...VERY....ACTUALLY...ABNORMALLY...UNBELIEVEABLY...stupid.....PATHETIC!!!!!!
PROVEN...totally false
I am trying my best to find the downside to millions infected with a disease in Mecca....in fact......O.K., I won't even suggest it...
Oh good grief...a conspiracy to kill us all Your post is so inane that it hardly deserves comment....PATHETIC
They come to Mecca on round trip tickets and I doubt the epidemic would stay there.
The chance of your kids getting killed in your car on the way to your doctors office for their annual checkup is far greater than blindness, encephalitis or deafness. NOTHING is foolproof, of course, but get real and wake up to discover that it is 2015....not the 1700's
Who on Earth EVER told you that??????good grief
Liberty Tree Surgeon, any time terycarl says your post is inane, you have won the FR Pulitzer prize!
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And your info is absolutely solid!
The MMR-autism link is indisputable.
Pharma sells death and nothing else. (Just as God’s word told us about the woman that touched Yeshua’s Talit and got healed; the healers had taken all her money and done nothing for her)
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I had whooping cough too, and I thank God that I did!
The childhood diseases that I had made me disease-proof for the rest of my life.
The farther and longer you stay from doctors, the healthier you will get.
Alelu Yah!
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No, just a conspiracy to keep the profits and contributions flowing. Good work trolling for your government masters.
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>> “Yes but the government site didn’t back your assertion.” <<
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For those without Mystery Babylon blinders it does.
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Is Rand Paul a doctor???...I don't tell engineers how to build bridges, I just cross them, I don't tell pilots how to fly planes, I just ride in them, I don't tell doctors how to practice medicine, I just trust that the medical profession has advanced beyond blood letting and amulets.
add an UN on your tag name.
In this discussion, it is important to note the significant difference between small pox/polio and measles/chicken pox/etc. The former are virulent and have a high probability of death/serious damage, the latter are virulent and have a low probability of death/serious damage. All vaccines have risks - but if the risk of vaccination is equal to or higher than the risk of contracting the disease, then there is a decision to be had.
Example - if polio/small pox comes back, my kids will get vaccinated. But given my family history of adverse reactions (up to paralysis and partial blindness - not permanent, thank God), they will not get the others.
But here's the problem - people like you who haven't had the misfortune of seeing an adverse reaction will ignore the risks to us and call us lunatics for making the choices we do. This supports those in favor of government mandates. This also sounds vaguely like "good of the children" logic that would otherwise be considered the mark of a liberal fascist. Don't be that guy/gal!
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