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To: ifinnegan

>>Because the Scientism liberal totalitarians use Darwin, not Madame Curie, Newton or Einstein.

Your comment is odd in that this appropriation of Darwin by the left is rather obvious.<<

I have seen no mention of Darwin in any article — using science in general is just abusing science in general.

>>Your contention that this article is using a whipping boy to attack science is bizarre as well.<<

Yet, that is what the author did.

>>No matter what one thinks of Discovery Institute’s scientific views, eg Intelligent Design, the issues raised here are separate and address social and political concerns.<<

Yes, and anything including science can be abused that way.

>>Do you think Discovery Institute is wrong about What they call Scientism and their claim of the abuse of science by the Liberals and leftists for political or social goals?<<

Perhaps no as a sociological phenomenon, but if they are going to hold science up as the source of evil, they need to hold it up in its entirety. The “but especially Darwinism (whatever the heck that is, since there is no such thing in science)” is just sophistry.

If you fear science and say it is being used for evil purposes (unprecedented!) then be honest and list ALL scientists not the ones you can’t understand.


12 posted on 02/11/2015 9:25:32 AM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: freedumb2003

I think your ideas about the Discovery Institute are bizarre and way off base.

I don’t think they are attacking science.

I think your idea that they fear science is bizarre.

The idea of Scientism is not that science is evil but that it is misused for purposes other than science and in ways that do not follow from the scientific findings.

You seem to be purposely conflating criticism of the misuse of science for sociology-political purposes with fear of science.

“If you fear science and say it is being used for evil purposes (unprecedented!) then be honest and list ALL scientists not the ones you can’t understand.”

This makes no sense at all unless one want to give up rationality. If we followed your line of reasoning we would have to reject all science because we reject Lamarck or Lysenko or even Al Gore.


14 posted on 02/11/2015 9:43:25 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: freedumb2003; ifinnegan

>> I have seen no mention of Darwin in any article — using science in general is just abusing science in general.

“Darwin Day” is used. It is because Darwin’s birthday seems to be the equivalent of Christmas in the new religion of Scientism. It is used by the adherents to celebrate their fight against heretics and blasphemers.

Science is good, like all tools used by mankind are good. Science is bad the exact same way. Just like hammers, guns, electricity, computers, or any other thing we make use of. We are bad or good, not the tools.

>> The “but especially Darwinism (whatever the heck that is, since there is no such thing in science)” is just sophistry.

You sound like a worshipper. Like the Muslims, you accuse the heretics of misnaming your God, when the supposed misnomer is used among the priesthood freely, but initiates are told to punish the unbelievers with accusations that they besmirch the divine.

When you do an online search on the journal “Nature”, you get 376 articles mentioning “Darwinism”.

http://search.nature.com/search/?sp_a=sp1001702d&sp_t=advanced&sp_x_1=ujournal&sp-p=all&sp

Online search of “Science” journal, 44 hits.
http://www.sciencemag.org/search.dtl

Online search of “PubMed” journal, 193 hits.
http://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?DB=pubmed

Why do you spout neoMarxist untruths on a conservative website?


20 posted on 02/11/2015 11:01:30 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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