Posted on 02/11/2015 2:04:44 PM PST by servo1969
“they are largely Ashkenazi, ancestors from Eastern Europe, Ukraine, and Russia, who came to America to avoid persecution but took their socialist/Marxist viewpoints with them. “
That is true demographically, but it also had a secondary effect. Since these immigrants came with a pre-existing subset of committed socialists/Marxists, that subset naturally targeted their own community for propaganda, recruitment and organizing. They knew the language and culture, lived in their communities and in their very families.
Also, the Democrat Party had (and still has) the practice of outreach and organizing efforts to new immigrant groups, especially in areas where they had big city political machines (notably NYC) to dole out benefits and favors.
Most immigrant groups lean Democrat for a generation or two, Jews longer than most.
“The care about Secular leftism. That’s their religion.”
I wonder if that’s only half of it. Might there be an ingrained cultural distrust of the WASP establishment, causing such Jews to reflexively support whatever or whomever reduces the power and influence of the WASPs? Of course, that’s incredibly foolish and nearsighted, because WASPs created the only society which has given a safe haven to Jews in modern times. They have been engaged killing the goose for so long that they can’t see they are now in danger of losing the golden egg along with the rest of us.
“The care about Secular leftism. That’s their religion.”
I wonder if that’s only half of it. Might there be an ingrained cultural distrust of the WASP establishment, causing such Jews to reflexively support whatever or whomever reduces the power and influence of the WASPs? Of course, that’s incredibly foolish and nearsighted, because WASPs created the only society which has given a safe haven to Jews in modern times. They have been engaged killing the goose for so long that they can’t see they are now in danger of losing the golden egg along with the rest of us.
Talk about bizarre stereotypes.
Our Jewish neighbors and friends are not voting against republicans because they are trapped in voting like it was a 100 or 150 years ago.
Believe it or not, Jews read newspapers and keep up with current events, watch the TV news that they choose to watch, and vote for the politics that they support.
Jews need to be reminded how a Democratic President along with his cabinet members abandoned them during the Holocaust.
I think they tend to be Liberal because many really don't believe in living on after death in Heaven but think their spirit lives on through their children and good works. At least, that is how some have explained it to me. Being Jewish means being in is a religion of works, not grace, but family and heritage is important to them.
That is a shame because that means they have missed out on the Gospel and their (and our) Messiah. But then, they always have been a "stiff-necked" people.
Same can be said for Christians who vote democrat or who are liberal.
They would rather give other people’s money to the poor than their own. Just like Hollywierd.
Pray America is waking
Perhaps, but is there any indication that Wilkie would have done any differently?
The question is why the GREAT MAJORITY of Jews ALWAYS vote leftist, not why some do or have in some elections.
Does there need to be?
Why offer that as a defense for FDR and actions actually taken? And what about the Kennedys and the Jewish vote?
What about today?
Key phrase from the article:
“They care about secular leftism, which is their religion.”
Yes. Somewhat different experiences and, to a degree, theological emphases — as far as I go, none of these groupings should be permanently attached to either political party but what with the islamoNazi extremist takeover of today’s D party headquarters apparatus then yes they all should vote that dangerous cabal out of power IMHO. This opinion’s worth what u paid for it (if you’re lucky ). Best, fhc
I belonged to a Reform temple for over 20 years...as one might imagine, most of the congregation and the rabbi were politically leftists. But they were all fervent supporters of Israel as well. Many of them made trips there regularly, or sent their kids on trips there and almost all made regular financial contributions to Israel. It doesn't hurt to remember that Israel itself is a socialist country. Many other Jews I've known that didn't belong to my temple felt the same way; they voted Democrat, but strongly supported Israel.
So the reason Jews vote Democrat, in my personal experience, is not because they don't care about Israel. Some don't, but I've rarely met one. I believe that most do.
I think it's more a matter of finding it difficult to abandon old belief systems and tradtions. I don't think they want to believe the president is an antisemite, or that he dislikes Israel. And I believe I am right in saying that many US Jews view Netanyahu as the Israeli Right politically, so they are already in agreement with Obama that they'd prefer a different Israeli leader. Of course, they are not on the same page with Israeli Jews in this.
I wonder if that’s only half of it. Might there be an ingrained cultural distrust of the WASP establishment, causing some Jews to reflexively support whatever or whoever reduces the power and influence of the WASPs? Of course, that’s incredibly foolish and nearsighted, because WASPs created the only society which has given a safe haven to Jews in modern times. They have been engaged killing the goose for so long that they can’t see they are now in danger of losing the golden egg along with the rest of us.
How, then, did they transition to the ideological opposite, statist socialism? Was it through a belief that a dictatorship of the proletariat would avoid an oppressive state? That would have been the ultimate in unintended consequences. Jews became a important force behind the Russian revolution. It is also postulated that Jews saw a strong state as a potential protector, which is the opposite of the nihilist view. How could a nihilist also be a Bund member?
I am seeking an answer to these questions since it may indicate the source of the ideas brought to America and still alive in today's voting patterns.
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