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As Public Sours, ObamaCare Faces An Uncertain Future
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Posted on 02/14/2015 6:50:51 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: Caipirabob

Careful what you wish for. Thus far, they’ve shown more of a penchant for buggering their own misguided constituency than actually going out and acting like a heterosexual man with body hair. :0)


21 posted on 02/14/2015 7:30:59 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: RoosterRedux

In Miami, the local media is breathlessly urging the low information voters to sign up for the Death Panels before tomorrow.

Local media in every large city really seems to be in the tank for Valerie’s man child.


22 posted on 02/14/2015 7:32:30 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Gaffer

” Roberts was bought a long time ago - like a two dollar hooker.”

One has to allow for inflation....

20 dollar hooker.


23 posted on 02/14/2015 7:35:38 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: CptnObvious
How does the writer know this? Was it due to Obamacare Navigators heavily inflating folks income or what?

Could people have understated (lied about) their income in order to get bigger subsides?

Nah, that couldn't be it.

24 posted on 02/14/2015 7:36:15 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yeah....guess so. Even so, it won’t be a “round the world” thing. Just your basic sellout.


25 posted on 02/14/2015 7:37:10 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: InterceptPoint
The Federal subsidies for states that have no exchanges are against law not the Constitution.

If so ruled by the S.C., will people who received illegal subsidies have to pay it back?

I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

26 posted on 02/14/2015 7:39:54 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.)
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To: RoosterRedux

“as the public sours”? The public has been soured on Obamacare since it was first planned. The media and the Democrats (same thing i guess) are the only ones who were for it. And idiot republicans believed them rather than listening to the public.


27 posted on 02/14/2015 7:43:47 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: InterceptPoint
I don't think Obamacare law is unconstitutional.

Have you read the constitution?

Under what authority in the Constitution does it give Congress or the President or the courts the power to order you to buy health insurance simply because you are alive?

28 posted on 02/14/2015 7:50:48 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: GeronL
Because I really, really, really, really, really mean it?

I believe, I believe, I BELIEVE!!!

*sigh*

Point taken...

29 posted on 02/14/2015 7:59:33 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

>Get rid of this atrocity or we’ll get rid of you next election!<

.
And replace this bunch of numbnuts with another bunch cut from the same cloth?


30 posted on 02/14/2015 8:00:31 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: Amagi

“We’ve seen that Roberts of SCOTUS will twist the Constitution and the law into a pretzel to preserve this completely disastrous law..”

He should get it right this time. After all, he did say,
“It is not our job to protect the people from the
consequences of their political choices.”


31 posted on 02/14/2015 8:02:20 AM PST by mouske
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OBAMACARE IS A HUGE CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE---STATES SHOULD CONSIDER THIS APPROACH---Rhonda Cook one of the ace Atlanta Journal Constitution reporters bird-dogged the corrupt Atlanta teachers story.

Cook reported that the 1980 Georgia General Assembly was concerned about “the increasing sophistication of various criminal elements on the public payroll.” The Assembly then adopted the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), patterned after a similar federal law.

(RICO is often used to try to prove that a legal business was being used for illegal means, and, in at its inception, RICO was used to prosecute drug traffickers or organized crime members).

In recent years prosecutors have applied RICO to government officials accused of using their offices for personal gain---he activites of former and current Atlanta public school officials.

To bring a case under Georgia’s RICO law, there must be at least two underlying felonies — such as fraud, bribery, witness tampering (among other felonies).

RICO allows prosecutors to include multiple defendants charged with various crimes in the blanket indictment, and to charge that the defendants were allegedly part of an ongoing criminal enterprise......

....criminal activities such as:

<><> (a) the botched multi-billion crony-related ACA web site rollout scam,

<><> (B) undisclosed taxes and fees,

<><> (c) huge payoffs and kickbacks to buy US Senate votes,

<><> (d) untraceable billions secretly added to the ACA bill,

<><> (e) Jonathan's Gruber/MIT ACA profiteering......

<><>...... and the like.

32 posted on 02/14/2015 8:05:59 AM PST by Liz
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To: P-Marlowe

“Under what authority in the Constitution does it give Congress or the President or the courts the power to order you to buy health insurance simply because you are alive? “

By the same method they use to force you into social security. The way the system was before ocare was not much better or else there would not be popular appeal for major reforms. In the long run we would have ended up at the same place.


33 posted on 02/14/2015 8:08:30 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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UPDATE We still do not know where these billions went.---O/care allocated some $6 billion tax dollars----campaign spending money for Dumbocrats ----which has yet to be traced.

The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest. Egged on by Pelosi, Democrats slavishly voted for Obamacare by an historic straignt-party line vote. But not one Democrat told Americans about Obamacare's Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).

THE PAYOFF--WHO GETS THE MONEY? In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion, and, in 2015 and on, $2 billion

<><> Where is all that money going?

<><> Was cashing-in the incentive in getting the thing passed?

The sound of West Wing wire-transfers to states and to offshore banks is almost palpable.

===================================================

REFERENCE ACA SEC. 4002. PREVENTION AND PUBLIC HEALTH FUND.

(a) PURPOSE. It is the purpose of this section of the ACA to establish a Prevention and Public Health Fund (referred to in this section as the ‘‘Fund’’), to be administered through the Department of Health and Human Services, Office of the Secretary, to provide for expanded and sustained national investment in prevention and public health programs to improve health and help restrain the rate of growth in private and public sector health care costs.

(b) FUNDING.—There are hereby authorized to be appropriated, and appropriated, to the Fund, out of any monies in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated—

(1) for fiscal year 2010, $500,000,000;
(2) for fiscal year 2011, $750,000,000;
(3) for fiscal year 2012, $1,000,000,000;
(4) for fiscal year 2013, $1,250,000,000;
(5) for fiscal year 2014, $1,500,000,000; and
(6) for fiscal year 2015, and each fiscal year thereafter, $2,000,000,000.

(c) USE OF FUND.—The Secretary shall transfer amounts in the Fund to accounts within the Department of Health and Human Services to increase funding, over the fiscal year 2008 level, for programs authorized by the Public Health Service Act, for prevention, wellness, and public health activities including prevention research and health screenings, such as the Community Transformation grant program, the Education and Outreach Campaign for Preventive Benefits, and immunization programs.

(d) TRANSFER AUTHORITY.—The Committee on Appropriations of the Senate and the Committee on Appropriations of the House of may provide for the transfer of funds in the Fund to eligible activities under this section, subject to subsection (c).

WHERE IS THE MONEY?

FBI TIPS PAGE https://tips.fbi.gov

O/Care is a presidential blunder of Ceaucescu-esque proportions......a titanic tsunami taking down everything in its path.

The O/Care con artists are on a crime spree to work the dismal numbers----lots more tricks up their sleeves. Enrollees got conned into this scheme.. The enrollee numbers are so low, Obama ordered HHS to pump the numbers to dupe the taxpaying public into thinking the atrocity is popular....

34 posted on 02/14/2015 8:11:01 AM PST by Liz
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To: RoosterRedux

bout 3.4 million people — roughly half of those who received government subsidies to purchase insurance in the exchanges last year — will have to pay back part of those subsidies because they misreported their incomes

They were mis informed, lied to. How is that “free” healthcare workin for ya?

BTW welcome to the republican party.


35 posted on 02/14/2015 9:07:28 AM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: CptnObvious

Here’s a new article on the subsidy mess:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3257515/posts


36 posted on 02/14/2015 9:09:54 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Caipirabob

lol

exactly


37 posted on 02/14/2015 9:16:58 AM PST by GeronL
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To: RoosterRedux

Public approval is irrelevant.

Obamacare has put down roots. By 2017, it will be impossible to get rid of.

The only two shots were the USSC in 2011 and the Cruz shutdown. It really can’t be undone any more.


38 posted on 02/14/2015 9:21:08 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: RoosterRedux

To all those obamabots, welcome to the party pal.


39 posted on 02/14/2015 9:22:32 AM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed)
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To: RoosterRedux

Hat tip to LiberalLogic101.com

40 posted on 02/14/2015 9:59:35 AM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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