“”there is no need for us to know what they’re going to be shooting into our tiny newborn’s bodies. Just trust those who lie us all the time because shots are such a big business they can’t be allowed to fail. Right?””
A point I was trying to make last week on threads like this. Why do we sit through beaucoup TV commercials - lasting long enough to take a nap - of all the GREAT, BAD SIDE EFFECTS that can happen if you take the drug being advertised BUT no one wants to name the bad side effects of vaccines. One freeper took exception to that and said that wasn’t true but didn’t elect to name one....
The main reason I gave up on this subject last week - probably by Tuesday or so - it started on Saturday if IIRC - was the FACT that I couldn’t get through to the PRO VACCINE folks that I didn’t belong to a NEW anti-vaccine movement - I was raised this way beginning in the thirties!! I wasn’t a leftwing nut driving a Prius. There are just some people who will never get it.
You are correct “that some people” will never get it. On the other hand some people need the opportunity to hear the other side and learn why there is an “anti vaccine” movement. After all, the mainstream media are worthless and given that, Kathleen Sebelius is quoted in an interview with Readers Digest stating, “There are groups out there that insist that vaccines are responsible for a variety of problems, despite all scientific evidence to the contrary. We (the office of Secretary of Health and Human Services) have reached out to media outlets to try to get them not to give the views of these people equal weight in their reporting.” A Free Press is not instructed on what to report by Government Officials.
Freepers sometimes must do the job that the media refuses to do. Fortunately the Government hasn’t “reached out” to me lately. Well, that is if I don’t count the pro-vax, anti-personal rights Trolls that always come out to feed. ;)
“Why do we sit through beaucoup TV commercials - lasting long enough to take a nap - of all the GREAT, BAD SIDE EFFECTS that can happen if you take the drug being advertised BUT no one wants to name the bad side effects of vaccines.”
Believe it or not, but you just nailed the reason that my family is now backing out of vaccines all together as adults and my daughter is only having *her* daughter vaccinated against the ‘big bads’.
Every time we get vaccinated, we get sick. My son gets really, really sick. And it doesn’t matter what it is - even the flu shot.
But every single time we try to talk to the medical professionals about those side effects, they tell us that ‘that’s not possible’. (Alright. ONE nurse affirmed our symptoms and gave a plausible explanation.)
This total denial of reality has fed our mistrust more than anything.
“Doctor, every time I get the flu shot, I get flu symptoms for a week or two and then go through a couple of months of muscle aches, low-grade fevers, and malaise.”
“That’s impossible. It’s a dead virus and can’t make you sick.”
But we do get sick. And it’s a loooong lingering sickness that we cannot shake.
When my kids were young, we were advised to give them tylenol before we brought them in for their shots and to expect them to have a fever and be ‘fussy’ for a few days after. They acknowledge that there are some side effects.
But when they do a turn around and flat-out deny that we are having issues, it makes my hair stand up on end. If you don’t trust me, then why should I trust you?
After last year’s fiasco, we’re done. Last year we got the nasal spray, hoping that it would be different than the shots. My son got sicker than ever. For six freaking weeks that young man was sick as hell. Fevers up to 102. Couldn’t get out of bed. Diarrhea that wouldn’t end. The drs gave him antibiotics (because it couldn’t be from the vaccine, don’t cha know. He had to have a weird infection that they couldn’t figure out. Even though his symptoms started within hours of taking the spray...)
Turns out that he NEVER should’ve had that vaccine! He has an immunodeficiency and it is counter-indicated for his condition! WE BROUGHT IT UP TO THE DR AND NURSE BEFORE HAND. They poo-pooed us and still gave him the damn spray.
If they were *honest* with us - instead of trying to manipulate us and calm us down by dismissing our concerns, instead of addressing those concerns - we’d be a little more open minded.
Now, the entire medical profession has killed our family’s trust with their ‘calm down’ attitude.
Don’t these people know that you NEVER tell a woman to ‘calm down’ and dismiss her concerns? That’s Marriage 101.