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What ISIS really wants
The Atlantic ^ | March 2015 | Graeme Wood

Posted on 02/16/2015 2:38:01 PM PST by iowamark

What is the Islamic State?

Where did it come from, and what are its intentions? The simplicity of these questions can be deceiving, and few Western leaders seem to know the answers. In December, The New York Times published confidential comments by Major General Michael K. Nagata, the Special Operations commander for the United States in the Middle East, admitting that he had hardly begun figuring out the Islamic State’s appeal. “We have not defeated the idea,” he said. “We do not even understand the idea.” In the past year, President Obama has referred to the Islamic State, variously, as “not Islamic” and as al-Qaeda’s “jayvee team,” statements that reflected confusion about the group, and may have contributed to significant strategic errors.

The group seized Mosul, Iraq, last June, and already rules an area larger than the United Kingdom. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been its leader since May 2010, but until last summer, his most recent known appearance on film was a grainy mug shot from a stay in U.S. captivity at Camp Bucca during the occupation of Iraq. Then, on July 5 of last year, he stepped into the pulpit of the Great Mosque of al-Nuri in Mosul, to deliver a Ramadan sermon as the first caliph in generations—upgrading his resolution from grainy to high-definition, and his position from hunted guerrilla to commander of all Muslims. The inflow of jihadists that followed, from around the world, was unprecedented in its pace and volume, and is continuing...

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria
KEYWORDS: graemewood; isis; islam; islamicimperialism; islamicstate; islamonazism; theatlantic; warcrimes
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Long, but interesting.
1 posted on 02/16/2015 2:38:02 PM PST by iowamark
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2 posted on 02/16/2015 2:41:38 PM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: iowamark

Submission to islam. Easy question to answer


3 posted on 02/16/2015 2:42:44 PM PST by RginTN
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4 posted on 02/16/2015 2:43:53 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The dog days are over /The dog days are done/Can you hear the horses? /'Cause here they come)
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To: iowamark

Those bloodthirsty creatures in Pitch Black (2000) comes to mind


5 posted on 02/16/2015 2:44:21 PM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: iowamark

Click the pic to link to the full-text Free Republic thread.

6 posted on 02/16/2015 2:45:46 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: iowamark

Once you look at the source, you know that the story is fluff. What they want is you to be a Muzzi or dead.


7 posted on 02/16/2015 2:49:40 PM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: iowamark

They want you to submit or die.


8 posted on 02/16/2015 2:51:15 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: iowamark

Hizb-ut-Tahrir may become dangerous than ISIS: Report (One Million Members)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3257692/posts


9 posted on 02/16/2015 2:52:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: iowamark
As if to show that he could terrorize by imagery alone, Adnani also referred to Secretary of State John Kerry as an “uncircumcised geezer.”

Yeah, but he did serve in Vietnam.

10 posted on 02/16/2015 2:55:12 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: iowamark

Will this leftist rag admit that IS is a bunch of subhuman savages?


11 posted on 02/16/2015 2:55:33 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: iowamark

Where did it come from, and what are its intentions?

We created ISIS through Obama’s friends, the Muslim Brotherhood, and they want to KILL all of us. It is the only way to get out of all this Bad Debt we have rung up in the names of our children.


12 posted on 02/16/2015 2:56:17 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: iowamark

Boys ages 11 to 13.


13 posted on 02/16/2015 2:56:35 PM PST by The Toll
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To: RginTN

It’s so easy, but so few get it. Most continue to pretend we can COEXIST while they slaughter anybody standing in their way.

I think they want submission to them first, then islam. More likely, they want you to die.


14 posted on 02/16/2015 2:58:27 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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Major General Michael K. Nagata, the Special Operations commander for the United States in the Middle East, admitting that he had hardly begun figuring out the Islamic State’s appeal. “We have not defeated the idea,” he said. “We do not even understand the idea.”

Please allow me to help you out there, General.

First, you must recognize Islam for what it really is: It’s not a religion, form of government, or anything recognizable to the civilized mind. Islam is a disease, an incurable disease of the mind that is highly contagious among the feeble minded and is now spreading among the world’s feeble minded at an epidemic rate. As with any disease, one can’t reason with this disease, negotiate with it, or treat in any manner other than how one would treat any other incurable disease. Past efforts to contain this disease have failed, now carriers of this Plague of Islam must be eradicated wherever they’re found, for if they’re not, this disease will eventually end not just Western Civilization, but it will undo over 5,000 years of human civilization.


15 posted on 02/16/2015 3:02:54 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Steamburg

....Or pay oppressive taxes.


16 posted on 02/16/2015 3:07:04 PM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Steamburg

The oppressive taxes called the jiyza tax.


17 posted on 02/16/2015 3:09:05 PM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: iowamark
The group seized Mosul, Iraq, last June, and already rules an area larger than the United Kingdom.

Once upon a time, the sun never set on the United Kingdom. But there was backlash about the remote leadership and means of territorial acquisition.

The libtards at the Atlantic boasting of the lands 'ruled' by Islamic State ignores the "how" to dig at questions of "why".

Not all war crimes are equal apparently. Conquest is still celebrated if you bow to Mohammed.

18 posted on 02/16/2015 3:09:28 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

They give you 3 choices, convert, pay the jayza tax, or be killed. There is a 4 choice, but you have to do it, is to fight.


19 posted on 02/16/2015 3:10:34 PM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: central_va
no,,, No.
They want Free Health Care, Free Abortions, Social Justice and free toilet paper.
20 posted on 02/16/2015 3:10:58 PM PST by Falcon4.0
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