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Resurrecting Lincoln
Townhall.com ^ | February 17. 2015 | John Ransom

Posted on 02/17/2015 4:22:50 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: NTHockey

Good resources for the Lincoln haters:

Professor John McKee Barr’s “Loathing Lincoln: An American Tradition from the Civil War to the Present”:

http://loathinglincoln.com/book/

http://loathinglincoln.com/

McKee speech on C-Span:
http://www.c-span.org/video/?322129-1/book-discussion-loathing-lincoln

Thomas Krannawitter’s book “Vindicating Lincoln”
http://www.amazon.com/Vindicating-Lincoln-Defending-Politics-President-ebook/dp/B004BJ1WG2/ref=sr_1_2


21 posted on 02/17/2015 11:09:56 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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22 posted on 02/17/2015 11:13:32 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: iowamark

Not hatred; but little love either. The country had flirted with secession for 50 years prior, mostly pushed by the New England states. When the Confederate states actually seceded, all of a sudden the very people who were in favor of secession suddenly became ardent defenders of a united country. $$$$

Both sides fought for $$.


23 posted on 02/17/2015 1:03:08 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: NTHockey

Yes, New England Federalists met at the Hartford Convention to discuss the war and a minority of the delegates favored secession. They were uniformly denounced as treasonous. The Federalist Party was discredited and thus came to an end.

Secession was always considered treasonous by most Americans right up until South Carolina attempted it in 1860. That is why they did not consult with any other slave states prior to doing it.


24 posted on 02/17/2015 1:16:25 PM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: iowamark

HA! HA! Check your history its common knowledge Abe put out an arrest warrant on the Chief Justice. The cops just would not do it.


25 posted on 02/17/2015 1:46:14 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: DoodleDawg

I won’t because he did.


26 posted on 02/17/2015 1:47:18 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: NTHockey

The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it. United States Constitution, Article 1, Section 9.


27 posted on 02/17/2015 1:47:30 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Tupelo

Well, you can thank the Democrats for slavery , The Confederate States of America, The Civil War, succession and the creation of the KKK. The Democrat Party has a lot to atone for historically.


28 posted on 02/17/2015 1:50:17 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Then it should be fairly simple to provide a link to credible evidence of said warrant. I’d love to see it. Thanks.


29 posted on 02/17/2015 1:50:57 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: MikefromOhio

Here here! I agree.


30 posted on 02/17/2015 1:51:24 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: DoodleDawg

I believe it was Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, who imposed the first income tax in 1913.


31 posted on 02/17/2015 1:52:44 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: iowamark

“As Charles Adams wrote in his LRC article, “Lincoln’s Presidential Warrant to Arrest Chief Justice Roger B. Taney,” there were, at the time of his writing, three corroborating sources for the story that Lincoln actually issued an arrest warrant for the chief justice. It was never served for lack of a federal marshal who would perform the duty of dragging the elderly chief justice out of his chambers and throwing him into the dungeon-like military prison at Fort McHenry. (I present even further evidence below).

All of this infuriates the Lincoln Cult, for such behavior is unquestionably an atrocious act of tyranny and despotism. But it is true. It happened. And it was only one of many similar constitutional atrocities committed by the Lincoln administration in the name of “saving the Constitution.”

The first source of the story is a history of the U.S. Marshal’s Service written by Frederick S. Calhoun, chief historian for the Service, entitled The Lawmen: United States Marshals and their Deputies, 1789–1989. Calhoun recounts the words of Lincoln’s former law partner Ward Hill Laman, who also worked in the Lincoln administration.

Upon hearing of Laman’s history of Lincoln’s suspension of habeas corpus and the mass arrest of Northern political opponents, Lincoln cultists immediately sought to discredit Laman by calling him a drunk. (Ulysses S. Grant was also an infamous drunk, but no such discrediting is ever perpetrated on him by the Lincoln “scholars”.)

But Adams comes up with two more very reliable accounts of the same story. One is an 1887 book by George W. Brown, the mayor of Baltimore, entitled Baltimore and the Nineteenth of April, 1861: A Study of War (Johns Hopkins University Press, 1887). In it is the transcript of a conversation Mayor Brown had with Taney in which Taney talks of his knowledge that Lincoln had issued an arrest warrant for him.”

- See more at: http://thomaslegion.net/presidentabrahamlincolnandthechiefjustice.html#sthash.WibTV3sg.dpuf


32 posted on 02/17/2015 1:53:41 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: vetvetdoug

Because they took up arms against a duly elected government in order to preserve an economic system based on the ownership of one human being by another for the purpose of using said human beings as slave labor.


33 posted on 02/17/2015 1:55:20 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: rockrr

R U feeling the love yet? LOL!


34 posted on 02/17/2015 2:05:05 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jmacusa

Actually the Lincoln administration imposed the first federal income tax began in 1861. It was was repealed in 1872. The confederates imposed on in 1863.

http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/warfare-and-logistics/logistics/tax.html


35 posted on 02/17/2015 2:08:33 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

No.


36 posted on 02/17/2015 2:10:18 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

Wilson did reinstate in 1913 didn’t he?


37 posted on 02/17/2015 2:12:05 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: rockrr

Snicker! :-)


38 posted on 02/17/2015 2:12:20 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jmacusa

Yes, after the passage of the 16th Amendment.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html


39 posted on 02/17/2015 2:16:10 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jmacusa
Because they took up arms against a duly elected government in order to preserve an economic system based on the ownership of one human being by another for the purpose of using said human beings as slave labor.

The south was all about crony capitalism back in this time as well - kinda like how the obama administration is now and hey look, they were all democrats back then too. Things that make you go hmmmmm
40 posted on 02/17/2015 2:40:33 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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