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NYT: Who Loves America?
New York Times ^ | February 23, 2015 | Charles M. Blow

Posted on 02/23/2015 2:15:43 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

"....Ah, American exceptionalism again.

This is in part about a fundamental difference in views. It is a definitional difference, not about the meaning of love but about the meaning of America and its place in the world. Does exceptionalism — if one accepts the premise — bestow exemption from critique? Is uniqueness perfection? Does our difference require some sort of arresting of development?.....

....In a way, this is an ideological battle. Conservatism is rooted in preservation; progressivism advances alteration. These are different love languages. These languages turn on your view of change itself: When you think of America, do you see a country struggling to be maintained or one striving to be made better?....

....America is a living idea. It isn’t only the tenets of its founding, but also the terms of its future. Every day, we make America.

Seeking to preserve and enshrine one vision of this country from one period of its past robs it of what makes it magical: its infinite possibility for adjustment.....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: exceptionalism; freedom; god; liberty; namola
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

America’s classical framework of ordered liberty is what makes our society so dynamic. It’s like how the rules of music facilitate all kinds of improvisation and innovation. Liberals think that “progress” means hacking away at the very framework that makes progress possible. An example is property rights, which is sort of the treble clef of our society.


21 posted on 02/23/2015 3:55:45 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: TigersEye

Most NYC residents are AINOs at best. If they loved America they would move there. NYC is a European bastard child.


22 posted on 02/23/2015 4:06:42 AM PST by Reeses
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To: DJ Taylor

The only thing that stops the rest of the world from devouring us is our military technology. The ability to reach out and touch in their playground, before they can get to ours. Obama is doing his damnedest to make sure we lose that ability.


23 posted on 02/23/2015 4:09:15 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Cololeo

Yes he did. Rudy did hit a nerve. They hate America and he pointed it out.


24 posted on 02/23/2015 4:12:52 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Our Leader.

See how he loves America?

Three people with their right hand over their hearts. I know two of those three, and I strongly disagree with their politics. But I don't question their patriotism.

Our Leader does not have his right hand over his heart. But like the other three, it is over the organ he intends to use on America.

25 posted on 02/23/2015 4:15:09 AM PST by kidd
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

26 posted on 02/23/2015 4:19:06 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Batman11

Barack Oblowya?


27 posted on 02/23/2015 4:21:44 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: kidd

The Left hates that we love America.

We stand in their way - we the unknowledgable “cowboys” and “cowgirls” who refuse to learn how awful American was, is and will continue to be unless we toss away liberty and gratefully bend to their brilliant plans to control us.


28 posted on 02/23/2015 4:22:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

OK to criticize the country, not OK to criticize the President.


29 posted on 02/23/2015 4:25:32 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cute song and dance but does he love his country or not?


30 posted on 02/23/2015 4:26:52 AM PST by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We stick to our guns while the left wants to take them away; literally and figuratively.


31 posted on 02/23/2015 4:33:05 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Giuliani hit a nerve.


32 posted on 02/23/2015 4:44:50 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Cololeo
Rudy hit a nerve. The lefties are in panic mode.

Their screams and hysteria are most amusing.


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33 posted on 02/23/2015 4:46:11 AM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasement of Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

From the article: “Seeking to preserve and enshrine one vision of this country from one period of its past robs it of what makes it magical: its infinite possibility for adjustment....”

I’m with it, man! Let’s do some adjusting towards the infinite possibility of LESS government and MORE liberty! How about THAT possibility of adjustment??? You down for that, Charles?

Let me guess, Mr. Blow. Your idea of improvement is ever increasing government. That’s old school, man. Let’s be really innovative and try moving the other way! More liberty and less government is an adjustment, too.


34 posted on 02/23/2015 4:48:15 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I can solve this American exceptionalism argument right now and the genius of America is contained in ten Amendments to the Constitution called The Bill of Rights. Name me another country that guarantees to its people Freedom of Speech and Religion and the RKBA. Name me another that limits the government to only those powers granted. The goal of American foreign policy SHOULD BE to spread the BOR to every nation on Earth.

Instead the BOR is under attack by the socialists who crave absolute power be granted to government, proving the fact that it is the essence of the American experiment. When the BOR falls, so does America, and we are already very far down that road.

Anyone who wants to change that does not love America, but loves government.


35 posted on 02/23/2015 5:00:29 AM PST by ez (Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is... - Milton)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet. Or Obama. But I repeat myself.


36 posted on 02/23/2015 5:15:20 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Vendome

The name is Charles M. Blow, I assume that the middle name is Must.


37 posted on 02/23/2015 5:17:30 AM PST by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Just what you'd expect from a left-wing hack.

Good job, Blow.

38 posted on 02/23/2015 5:18:31 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Pollster1

not mine,, but a worthy quote,,
Øbama loves America like OJ loved Nicole . .


39 posted on 02/23/2015 5:32:24 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This ‘change’??
Nailed it!
To explain the ‘fundamental transformation’ Chicago Communist Paul Robeson said it best
:[A] socialist society represents an advance to a higher stage of life-that is, a form of society which is economically, socially, culturally, and ethically superior to a system based upon production for private profit. History shows that the processes of social change have nothing in common with silly notions about “plots” and “conspiracies.” The development of human society-from tribalism to feudalism, to capitalism, to socialism-is brought about by the needs and aspirations of mankind for a better life.
— Quoted in ‘Here I Stand’- Chicago Communist Paul Robeson

Obama & Co are the ones ‘we have been waiting for’ to take us from capitalism to socialism. The uneducated masses remain unaware


40 posted on 02/23/2015 5:49:00 AM PST by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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