[cuban leaf]

I’ll just say it:

I don’t love America. Did the aplstle Paul love Rome? Did Jesus?

Countries come and go. And I said way back in the early 90’s that I felt like a Jew in early 30’s Germany.

And to make it REALLY clear - I don’t love what America has become. As P. J O’Roarke once said(at least 20 years ago), and I paraphrase: Do you find yourself asking why American voters select the leaders they do? Well, have you seen the tv and movies they watch, the books they read? Hell, HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE MALL AND SEEN ‘EM?!

As a nation, we are no longer the good guys.

[optiguy]

“I’m always worried about using the word ‘victory,’ because, you know, it invokes this notion of Emperor Hirohito coming down and signing a surrender to MacArthur,” -—Barack Obama

[wbarmy]

I don’t love America. Did the aplstle Paul love Rome? Did Jesus?

Neither of them loved Rome, but both of them loved Jerusalem, the city of their Fathers (religious sense). There is no evil in patriotism, nor is there evil in loving what America once was and might be again.

[2nd Amendment]

I know what you’re saying. But I do love America. I love the gov’t founded on God that our founding fathers built. I love the Christian moral streak that abolished slavery and other ills. I love the million plus soldiers that laid down their life for my freedoms. I love the exceptionalism and the shing city on a hill that provided a refuge for downtrodden people elsewhere. No, I do not love the liberal, godless, shell it has become. It makes me want to cry. We have been blessed with so much and instead we turn to Sodom and Gomorrah as examples.

[GBA]

I’ll just say it: I don’t love America.

I did when I was a kid. Big time.
But now? Not so much...my illusions have faded away.

[Amity]

I love the American ideals and the people who live them. I think the Constitution is the best legal document on Earth and am glad it’s the one I live under. I am grateful to George Washington for refusing to be made king. I am grateful to Calvin Coolidge for demonstrating that capitalism works, by refusing to use the government “rescue” the people from a recession/depression/whatever you want to label it.

OTOH, public schooling has decimating the US; the public as a whole doesn’t know or understand their own Constitution, and not only woefully ignorant about economics, but also generally lacks the training in logic and in the scientific method necessary to remedy that. Sadly, we have the government a lot of people want, which is not the kind of government that made America great.

Even worse, it is not an issue of “Republican versus Democrat,” because neither party truly believes in returning power to the people. The main dispute between the two parties is about what the government should do — crony capitalism versus outright socialism — not about what role the government should play in individual’s lives.

America was great. Whether it will be great again is very much debatable. I love the promise of America; I don’t love the present America, but I haven’t given up on that promise.

[thulldud]

...HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE MALL AND SEEN ‘EM?!

Or Wal-Mart. Brain bleach city....