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Devilish details behind Obama's bullet ban
WND ^ | February 26, 2015 | Jeff Knox

Posted on 02/26/2015 9:11:30 PM PST by Perseverando

Jeff Knox explains why latest move by BATF is 'ridiculous'

The Obama administration’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, or BATF, recently announced its intention to ban the manufacture, importation and distribution of popular SS109/M855 ammunition commonly used in AR-15 type rifles, based on the construction of the projectile it uses. This ammo served as the standard issue, 5.56 x 45mm round used by the U.S. military and most NATO countries around the world. It is commonly referred to as “Green Tip” because the military puts a bit of green paint on the tip of the bullet to help soldiers easily identify it.

Since the AR platform is the single most popular rifle in the country, and M855 is one of the most common types of ammunition used in AR rifles, banning this ammo would have a significant effect on the market, by reducing ammo supply, driving up prices and forcing the military to spend money to destroy their older stocks, rather than making money by selling it to shooters. And since the U.S. recently transitioned to a new, slightly different loading as their primary round, designated as M855A1, being unable to sell surplus M855 and its European equivalent SS109 to U.S. consumers could become a costly problem.

The proposed ban won’t apply to other common types of 5.56 ammunition, only the SS109/M855 rounds. It also won’t ban possession of this ammunition, just manufacture, importation and distribution. So someone with a crate of this stuff in his basement won’t have to worry about becoming a felon overnight. But that is small consolation.

The justification for banning M855 arises from a 1986 law that was supposed to help protect police officers. As more police were wearing body armor, handgun ammunition capable of penetrating their vests was considered a serious threat.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 223; 2a; 2ndamendment; 556; 5pt56; ammo; ar15; atf; banglist; batf; bobgoodlatte; guncontrol; nra; pennsylvania; pt223; secondamendment
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1 posted on 02/26/2015 9:11:31 PM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

So paint a blue tip on it, alter the bullet slightly and keep selling ammo under a new name.


2 posted on 02/26/2015 9:14:10 PM PST by Cyclops08
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To: Perseverando
It is commonly referred to as “Green Tip” because the military puts a bit of green paint on the tip of the bullet to help soldiers easily identify it.

...Identify it - as what?

As a bullet? As a NATO bullet (as opposed to a Warsaw Pact bullet)? Sloppy writing!

Regards,

3 posted on 02/26/2015 9:16:26 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Cyclops08
Also from the article. Citizens are encouraged to contact the ATF with comments by March 16:

The BATF has invited comments on their ban announcement – not whether it’s a good idea or reasonable, but rather how best to implement it with the least disruption to manufacturers and importers. We’re asking people to comment on the announcement anyway, and to share those comments with elected officials.

Comments may be submitted via email to APAComments@atf.gov.

In your comments, point out that M855/SS109 does not have a core made entirely of steel, and that it does not penetrate police-style body armor any better than other common 5.56 ammunition. Tell them that removing M855/SS109 from the market will cause great disruption to the hundreds of thousands of people who buy and shoot millions of rounds of this ammunition every year, and that this massive consumption of this ammunition – with extremely rare use in any criminal activity – clearly demonstrates that it is primarily used for sporting purposes. The proposed ban on manufacture, importation and distribution of this ammunition serves no legal or officer safety function and should be tabled permanently.

The message need not be long or detailed, but we need as many comments against this proposal as possible, and we need them immediately. The window for comments closes on March 16. Once you submit your comment, please forward a copy to each of your U.S. senators and your representative, and ask them to sign on to Rep. Bob Goodlatte’s, R-Va., letter to BATF. This ridiculous action must be stopped.

4 posted on 02/26/2015 9:20:58 PM PST by Perseverando (In Washington it's common knowledge that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible to be POTUS.)
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To: Perseverando

Just an odd question, but of the million-odd occurrences a year where some exchange occurs with a gun within the US....is there a database that lays out the event and the type of gun used?

I read the news of various states on a frequent basis, and frankly....nine times out of ten when you see a shooting reporting....it’s a pistol used. And for AR-15 type events...I just don’t see these ever mentioned. Or am I simply missing these events?


5 posted on 02/26/2015 9:24:44 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Perseverando

I seem to remember green tipped rounds indicated it was a Tracer.


6 posted on 02/26/2015 9:24:45 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Cyclops08

Put a pink tip on it, code-name it “lipstick” and market it to female shooters.


7 posted on 02/26/2015 9:25:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Perseverando
If you want to have fun with the feds, object on environmental grounds. Tell them that to implement the ban that the ATF must implement a full environmental impact statement as the the most likely result of the ban will be the substitution of bullets made with more lead and therefore, the ban will effectively result in the mining of more lead and in the disposition of more lead through the environment.

That should bunch their panties up in a knot.

8 posted on 02/26/2015 9:29:33 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: alexander_busek

To identify it as 62gr steel core ammunition. It’s not armor piercing by any means.


9 posted on 02/26/2015 9:36:42 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Perseverando

And since the can ban that by executive fiat BATF can ban any bullet using a copper jacket, uses lead, uses metal. Who knows what BS they come up with next.


10 posted on 02/26/2015 9:40:17 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Robert357

Nah... they will just ban lead bullets too.


11 posted on 02/26/2015 9:45:54 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Perseverando

Tanto have comment on Silver Bullet

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_bullet


12 posted on 02/26/2015 9:59:16 PM PST by jcon40
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Shouldn’t that be “Tonto”? ;)


13 posted on 02/26/2015 10:07:56 PM PST by Boomer (Politically Incorrect and proud of it.)
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To: Perseverando

14 posted on 02/26/2015 10:08:26 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Perseverando

15 posted on 02/26/2015 10:10:28 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: jcon40

Coat them with pigs blood and ship them to Iran.


16 posted on 02/26/2015 10:15:38 PM PST by oldasrocks (They should lock all of you up and only let out us properly medicated people.)
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To: smokingfrog

Yep. It never was and never has been.


17 posted on 02/26/2015 10:30:00 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: pepsionice
Any centerfire rifle round, no matter how the bullet is made, is going to go right through regular police body armor, even a pure lead unjacketed bullet. Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/devilish-details-behind-obamas-bullet-ban/#VA5KcKFOe3Hbbcp5.99

If they get away with this ban they will "suddenly discover" that the vast majority of hunting rounds, i.e. .308, 7.62-51, 7.62-54, 30:06, 8mm, 300 win mag, etc. will easily defeat body armor and thus must "also be banned, even if they do not have a steel penatrator tip or steel core."

They fear a free and armed public. This is back door confiscation of our right to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS!

18 posted on 02/26/2015 11:13:20 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: Perseverando

ss109s won’t stabilize in a pistol length barrel. They impact the target sideways more likely than “pointy end” first. For this reason, I’m not convinced that they they would reliably penetrate a bullet proof vest when fired from a pistol length barrel. Furtheremore, I have never once heard of a LEO being killed with an AR15 pistol firing M855 ball ammo. I don’t believe it has ever happened. this is a virtually non-existent threat. It’s complete BS as we all know, a ruse to deny mil-surp ammo to Americans and nothing more.


19 posted on 02/26/2015 11:35:25 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Perseverando

They should call it “Bullets for Obama”


20 posted on 02/26/2015 11:57:37 PM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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