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1ST ARMY ACROSS RHINE SOUTH OF COLOGNE; BRIDGEHEAD IS FIRM; MOST OF BONN SEIZED (3/9/45)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 3/9/45 | Drew Middleton, Gladwin Hill, Howard Cowan, Gene Currivan, Sydney Gruson, Robert Trumbull, more

Posted on 03/09/2015 4:19:38 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: history; milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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To: Tax-chick

If he was depressed about not eradicating malaria, he should have devoted his efforts to smallpox.


21 posted on 03/09/2015 9:48:06 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Toland wrote “The Rising Sun” to be about the Pacific War more or less from the Japanese perspective. Most of the participants’ stories in the book are Japanese; a soldier from Guadalcanal, a nurse on Saipan, another soldier on Leyte are examples. Toland’s wife was Japanese, so it’s not a surprise. I will give Toland credit in that his narrative is balanced. I never thought “The Rising Sun” was written as an apologia for Japanese imperialism or atrocities. In fact, he did such a good job writing of those atrocities that when I got to this passage, my reaction was “good.” The citizens of Tokyo were only experiencing a form of what the Japanese had inflicted on millions of Asians.

They reaped the Whirlwind.


22 posted on 03/09/2015 9:53:23 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: henkster

Toland is one of my favorite historians. His biography of Hitler is superb.


23 posted on 03/09/2015 10:12:47 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Pull the string! Pull the string! A story must be told.)
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To: henkster

Hopefully the wife and child got some insurance money out of it.


24 posted on 03/09/2015 10:51:59 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Wash, rinse, dry, put away.)
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To: henkster

Maybe he was depressed about “Tess,” to whom he left a private note.


25 posted on 03/09/2015 10:52:55 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Wash, rinse, dry, put away.)
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To: Tax-chick

I would think that his manner of leaving this world was something other than an honorable discharge from the United States Military, and the wife and child may be out of luck. This would certainly be an undeserved hardship for them, but bureaucracy being what it is, they might have gotten nothing.


26 posted on 03/09/2015 10:58:01 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: henkster

I suppose if they discharged him first, his service insurance policy would be void.


27 posted on 03/09/2015 11:07:16 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Wash, rinse, dry, put away.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Thanks to you, Homer, when I was sitting next to an age 90+ WWII Navy submariner vet in our clinic overhearing him talk about the war, I knew exactly what he was talking about!

He said he was involved in testing the snorkel of a captured Nazi U-boat including taking it down to some depth. He also was involved post-war in measuring the radiation level of surplus subs that had been placed in range of test H-bombs after the blasts went off!


28 posted on 03/09/2015 2:35:07 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: texanyankee

At least it will end with a bang


29 posted on 03/09/2015 3:23:17 PM PDT by Technocrat (Romney-Ryan 2012 No I'm not changing my Sig Hey Cruuzzz... OK changing it)
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To: Tax-chick

So the stripper got her death penalty commuted to life in prison.

She got released in 1954.

So death penalty reduced to 9 years. Sounds like she had connections - out before she was thirty.


30 posted on 03/09/2015 5:40:41 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Thanks for following that up. Probably just Socialist Britain being “compassionate.”


31 posted on 03/09/2015 6:00:03 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Wash, rinse, dry, put away.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; flaglady47
Homer, your work and these threads are a real treasure. I echo the sentiment there should be a permanent archive and perhaps another off FR in case, heaven forbid, the website crashed and lost data.

The entire work is an amazing achievement, and has sparked much dinnertime conversation in the tanker household, so your work is having an influence far and wide.

32 posted on 03/09/2015 6:12:00 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: henkster; Homer_J_Simpson
They reaped the Whirlwind.

And I am not the least bit troubled by that.

33 posted on 03/09/2015 6:13:51 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: PAR35

The wikipedia article said little miss stripper was never heard from again after her release.


34 posted on 03/09/2015 6:27:58 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: henkster; Tax-chick

Found a NYT article that suggested that she is believed to have died about 1984, and that her recently wed husband had been killed at Arnhem. http://www.nytimes.com/1989/09/03/movies/love-lies-and-murder-in-1944.html

Per Sparticus, she married at 16. So the dates don’t exactly add up. (That would have her married in 1942, so it would be unlikely that her hubby would be dead a few days later at Arnhem. )
http://spartacus-educational.com/2WWjonesE2.htm

For those wanting to try to follow up, you might search under her maiden name (Baker). Jones was apparently her husband’s name.

Other sources suggest that her husband was violent on their wedding day, and ‘they parted’. They also say that her working name was Georgina Grayson.

Looks like the movie version rates 4.7 out of 10 at IMdB
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099250/

Rotten Tomato fans think more highly of it - 2.7 out of 5
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/chicago_joe_and_the_showgirl/


35 posted on 03/09/2015 7:18:31 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Hats off to you Homer. These threads are far more illustrative and informative than any prior WWII material I’ve ever read.

All of the WWII bits and pieces of knowledge I’ve accumulated in in my lifetime finally gelled over the past few years as a result of the topics and discussions here.

A heart felt thank you for doing this. It’s deeply appreciated.


36 posted on 03/09/2015 7:23:10 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I see Nimitz reports excellent results in bombing Tokyo.


37 posted on 03/09/2015 7:32:32 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Rebelbase; Old Sarge; EternalVigilance; henkster; flaglady47; ex-snook; Seizethecarp; ...

Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. It makes all the work worthwhile.


38 posted on 03/09/2015 8:02:15 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

You deserve it.


39 posted on 03/09/2015 8:03:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I can’t tell you what a profound spiritual effect reading this history has had on me, Homer! I frequently say a retrospective prayer for those souls who died 70 years ago on the day.


40 posted on 03/09/2015 8:26:04 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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