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Another Liberal Fails History
Renew America ^ | March 10, 2015 | Tim Dunkin

Posted on 03/10/2015 8:51:33 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy

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To: Yashcheritsiy
slavery has pretty been the baseline for the entire world for nearly all of human history up until the 19th century. Everyone in antiquity practiced it in one form or another. Every race and nation, on every inhabited continent, practiced it. The Africans enslaved each other. The Australian aboriginals practiced slavery. So did the Native Americans, and pretty much everyone in Asia, as well as the Muslims. Especially the Muslims. Many more black Africans died making the Trans-Sahara crossing to slave markets in North Africa and Egypt than died in the Trans-Atlantic crossings and in the New World. The Muslims LOVED themselves some slavery. In fact, they still do . . . the only countries with widespread slavery today are Muslim.
This gets to the issue as to whether or not our rights come from God. Liberals, take them as they run, hate themselves some Christianity. But a broad view of history shows that slavery as an institution was so established throughout history and worldwide that there exists now only one literature of defense of slavery (other than the Koran itself). Only one literature of the defense of slavery as an institution exists because it was never under moral attack anywhere else. That literature came from the American South, before/during the Civil War. Just as slavery was about to be abolished nationwide.

Christianity, at its inception, did not abolish slavery. The sum (I dare say) of reference to slavery in the New Testament

  1. Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ, and Timothy our brother, unto Philemon our dearly beloved, and fellowlabourer,

  2. And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house:

  3. Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

  4. I thank my God, making mention of thee always in my prayers,

  5. Hearing of thy love and faith, which thou hast toward the Lord Jesus, and toward all saints;

  6. That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.

  7. For we have great joy and consolation in thy love, because the bowels of the saints are refreshed by thee, brother.

  8. Wherefore, though I might be much bold in Christ to enjoin thee that which is convenient,

  9. Yet for love's sake I rather beseech thee, being such an one as Paul the aged, and now also a prisoner of Jesus Christ.

  10. I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:

  11. Which in time past was to thee unprofitable, but now profitable to thee and to me:

  12. Whom I have sent again: thou therefore receive him, that is, mine own bowels:

  13. Whom I would have retained with me, that in thy stead he might have ministered unto me in the bonds of the gospel:

  14. But without thy mind would I do nothing; that thy benefit should not be as it were of necessity, but willingly.

  15. For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest receive him for ever;

  16. Not now as a servant, but above a servant, a brother beloved, specially to me, but how much more unto thee, both in the flesh, and in the Lord?

  17. If thou count me therefore a partner, receive him as myself.

  18. If he hath wronged thee, or oweth thee ought, put that on mine account;

  19. I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides.

  20. Yea, brother, let me have joy of thee in the Lord: refresh my bowels in the Lord.

  21. Having confidence in thy obedience I wrote unto thee, knowing that thou wilt also do more than I say.

  22. But withal prepare me also a lodging: for I trust that through your prayers I shall be given unto you.

  23. There salute thee Epaphras, my fellowprisoner in Christ Jesus;

  24. Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellowlabourers.

  25. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen.
Epistle to Philemon
does not condemn the institution. It was only in the colonial/revolutionary era that Christians - especially Protestants, and most especially British Protestants - turned against the institution of slavery in principle. Since “the sun never set on the British Empire,” that was crucial in the abolition of the institution of slavery worldwide - to the extent that it has been abolished.
The British Navy, for no reason other than Christian principle, was tasked with the expensive maintenance of a squadron off West Africa to suppress the slave trade there.
William Wilberforce was the leader of opposition to the institution of slavery in Britain.

Thomas Sowell published the above information in the second half of Black Rednecks and White Liberals - Thomas Sowell

Given that slavery is the negation of personal rights, the intelligence that no other cultural system except Christianity - certainly not Islam, and certainly not Atheism with its Gulags - has any claim to opposition to slavery as an institution leaves any basis for the existence of individual human rights apart from the belief of Christians willing to stand for the principle “at any hazard.” Anti-christian activists can claim superiority - claiming moral superiority is what they do - but they lack any track record of lives put on the line for the principle. Rather, they are mere critics, while the “man who has actually been in the arena” has been Christian.

That the American founding, with all the losses involved in the Revolution, considered itself Christian is easily verified by the references to divine Providence and Creator in the Declaration of Independence, and by the reference to Jesus Christ (Who else was conventionally considered to have been born "one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven” years before the conclusion of the Constitutional Convention, and referred to as “our Lord?”) in the Constitution.

Substitute any religious/ethical system for Christianity, and you have at best a speculative and utterly untried foundation for respect for individual rights. “If the trumpet shall make an uncertain sound, who shall prepare for battle?” The fantasy upon which denial of the reality that rights come from God or else are illusory is based is that human rights will never need to be defended.

21 posted on 03/10/2015 12:42:01 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: HotHunt

I feel ancient, what’s happening to this once great nation?


22 posted on 03/10/2015 12:56:27 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“American soldiers slaughtered civilians in My Lai during the Vietnam war. By this point, Mizz Ladd’s examples are become rather fatuous. To rephrase her statement for more accuracy, “A small handful of American soldiers slaughtered civilians in My Lai during the Vietnam war.” This was neither official American military doctrine nor was it common practice. The use it as an example is, at best, desperate, if not disingenuous.”

People who keep bringing the up conveniently forget that it wasn’t the VC or the NVA that stopped the massacre, but other American soldiers who were willing to fire on their own men to stop it.


23 posted on 03/10/2015 1:26:09 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: RWB Patriot
"This was neither official American military doctrine nor was it common practice. The use it as an example is, at best, desperate, if not disingenuous."

She probably learned her history from Dan Rather on that one.

24 posted on 03/10/2015 2:21:46 PM PDT by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
In fact, they still do – it is notable that the only countries with widespread slavery today are Muslim.

We still have slavery, except that it is no longer legal, so whatever legal protections slaves once had do not now exist. We call it "human trafficking" now, and it exists all over the world. Liberal American politicians support the practice by not only refusing to stop, but even subsidizing the illegal flow of humans into our country.

25 posted on 03/11/2015 4:30:25 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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