Posted on 03/12/2015 11:39:08 AM PDT by Red Steel
No, they are not.
It is okay to use .223 in most 5.56mm weapons, but using 5.56 in a .223 can seriously damage the weapon.
The 5.56 is a higher velocity, higher pressure round. It also has a longer leade and shallower rifling angle.
Here is a good article on the differences:
http://www.rifleshootermag.com/rifles/ar-15/5-56-and-223-are-they-different/
A pellet coming out of an air rifle or bb gun is a threat to officer safety as it can put out an eye.
/sarc
Where does this little tyranny game end?
AR pistols usually have a 7.5 to 8 inch barrel and (of course) no stock. There is a piston pistol that doesn’t have that buffer tube sticking out at the back, but even that one is not really that concealable.
BTW it was the fact that someone began making and selling an “AK” pistol that got that cheap AK ammo banned.
I disagree. It is the unrelenting Progressive drive to eliminate the 2nd Amendment that got this cheap ammo banned.
Had an exchange with the author at Captain’s Journal:
ME:
I think this is Fear Porn.
Many have noted that the ATF got just as much shit from Democrats as from Republicans. Neither side wants this, YET.
Once the country is fully flooded with illegals, then all bets are off. But not quite yet.
HIM
Herschel Smith 5 minutes ago
New gun control isn’t likely to pass the House or Senate (or at least, not both of them) right now. But here is the key.
“Jones asked lawmakers to help in a review of a 1986 bill ... “
That’s slick. A lawyer in DoJ helped him to queue that one up. Tie it all to the GCA or the NFA, not new legislation. And get the Congress to go along with it in a “report,” “study,” “commission,” or “task force.”
ME
Kinda stretchy. But hey, this admin is notorious for stretching past their grasp.
Still, they haven’t even set out a proposed rule yet. So before you cause a run on .223 and 5.56, let’s be cautious on panicking everyone.
Still, and if they do: Comes a time when we simply stop listening to their pronouncements, marking them as insane. Simply continue manufacturing the ammo, and if they arrive in MRAPS, fight them with deadly force as you would any other invader.
Wow, had no idea they were made in barrels that short.
That’s the plan.
Someone gets it.
Care to guess what his qualifications are?
The total abolition of guns in America;
That has been the plan since 1962 when Thomas J Dodd and emanuel Cellar said..”We don’t want to take your guns away, we ONLY want to register handguns! LONG GUNS will not be affected!”
How long did that last.
As I have posted many times, military style rifles are just a smokescreen. Their ultimate goal is the total abolition of the RIGHT to own firearms of any type.
It has always been about handguns. Assault rifles are just a decoy to try and get their anti-gun foot in the door.
Once they get a ban on AWs then they will use the same reasons to go after handguns.
John Kennedy killed with a 5 shot bolt action rifle.
Medgar Evers, shot with a 5 shot 1917 bolt action Enfield rifle.
Martin Luther King, shot with a 4 shot Remington 760 pump action Gamemaster rifle.
Bobby Kennedy with a .22 Iver Johnson Cadet revolver.
George Wallace wounded with a 5 shot Charter Arms .38spl revolver.
Howard Johnson shooter killed nine, wounded thirteen with a 4 shot RUGER .44 mag Deerslayer rifle.
Gerald Ford attacked with a 7 shot 1911 semi auto.
Edmond OK post office with two National Guard 7 shot 1911 pistols.
Ronald Reagan and Jim Brady with an RG-14 .22 revolver.
What do they all have in common? NONE over 7 rounds, yet after each one came a cry of panic to ban all of them.
And if you still have doubts consider this by Nelson P Shields, founder of Handgun control Inc.
Nelson T. Pete Shields
Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.
Im convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. Were going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily given the political realities going to be very modest.
Of course, its true that politicians will then go home and say, This is a great law. The problem is solved. And its also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.
So then well have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again.
Right now, though, wed be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal total control of handguns in the United States is going to take time.
My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered.
And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors totally illegal.
-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., A Reporter At Large: Handguns, The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58
For those who may still doubt, Up until the 1980s HCI said they Only wanted to control handguns. Long guns would not be affected. Then they decided to go after semi-auto military style rifles along with handguns.
“Virtually all rifle ammo above .22 cal can penetrate type 2 body armor. Is the ATF going to basically outlaw hunting with anything other than .22s and shotguns by banning rifle ammo?”
I’m sure that’s their long term plan, but we shouldn’t give them any ideas.
***My .308 was designed to also fire the less lethal 7.62x51.***
The M-1A warranty will be voided if you shoot 308 Winchester hunting ammo in it. The 308 Win is more powerful.
Would be very convenient for the regime if the officers were shot with M855 or SS109 rounds from an AR15.
Just sayin'.
I bought a rifle last year. It is in 5.56MM. The box says it is .223. The serial number on the box and the firearm are the same.
Either that or he's a former moonshiner.
Good. They are supposed to be.
I guess that explains why ATF was quick to pounce on the FN 5.7x28 FMJ ammo. I'm not surprised; what you describe is a fine example of fedgov pretzel logic.
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